Staff caster PVP balancing needed

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[Enduir]

Cnt son.

[Darklords]

omg i finally reached the end what a waste of time...

PS: i can not use the degen arrow as pure bm...

i also do not get gravebound aura...

i could go on but who gives a ****?

i am at like 47% win lose but guess what im not built for pvp... guess why not cause i dont need to prove my self i like farming on nod...

btw i think bms need like a serious buff i cant kill dots or regens... and we also need like rupture for bleeds just saying and maybeh like quadhit for pets. geef nao

[banndintheusa]

Originally Posted by darklords

btw i think bms need like a serious buff i cant kill dots or regens... and we also need like rupture for bleeds just saying and maybeh like quadhit for pets. geef nao

You just rehashed the essence of my original post:

- staff DD cant kill dots or regens
- staff DD has no equivalent pvp gear to degen arrow or cleansing quiver
- DD in general needs a rupture-like skill
- DD has no pvp specific gem skill, like intoxicate

Looks like BM's have alot of the same problems.

I support buffing BM and DD equally except for gravebound....

BM already has stunlock in it's place.

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[banndintheusa]

Originally Posted by King

stunlock just stops the regener from moving. doesn't kill the regener. crushers get stun+gravebound. as do staves.


also....raze isn't dd specific for pvp?

Alright sure give BM gravebound also and then add stun to staves if you prefer

... same thing....

but thats sounds too OP to me.With regards to raze, I would consider a pvp specific skill as something that has a detrimental effect

-stun
-daze
-blind
-gem slow
-reduced regen.. etc.
-finisher
-opener
-drain

reduce block chance only helps against shield users, and while your right it arguably helps in pvp

In a pvp scenario...what would you rather have, rupture, intoxicate, or raze?

If it is raze ill trade you for rupture right now lol

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[banndintheusa]

Originally Posted by King

level smash foo. staves already can stun

It's capped of course. But some food for thought go try and stunlock a bm with ur staff and come back and tell me what the outcome is.

Im not against bm's getting gravebound / degen item/ finisher if it means dd gets the same... already said it sounds like they have common problems.

+1 DD/BM finisher and equippble item comparable to degen arrow.

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[banndintheusa]

Originally Posted by King

btw redye the 60% you mentioned is dot in the majority of fights.he has 3 pouches.dd dot and heal. and dot is his main so idk why you would count him as dd.

though most seem to have both builds. i think the highest pure dder seems to be yado with 68% wins. 25th best in arena for w/l. bit better than redeye's 49th best.

modifying original post accordingly

[banndintheusa]

Bump for balzenub

[NoRemorse]

looking at raze for pvp , high end cnc with over 600 int should do it versus most , not one build can beat all builds , high end farming .... solo'ing redwood and pit with ease ( no regen needed ) as pure dd caster at 86 was very doable for me. Yes dd casters lack some defense but you are an offensive caster if you are pure , time and time again it has been proven that dd casters are very good while grouped and can do some solo .

Go look at tops list and see what sisix did , paulodjohn , etc etc etc . Point is no easy button please , just grind it out

[Yadocxer]

I just found this post and what a HOOT to read.
Building a successful DD caster in today's meta game is not easy, but its not impossible. There are several hurdles to overcome, many of them pointed out by others in this thread, some not pointed out at all.
Many of us have struggled over the years to keep DD caster as a viable build both PVE/PVP and I will suggest that this struggle has not been in vain. Some have been very successful in keeping the DD caster a feared PVP/Arena toon as well as one hell of a farmer.
Glitch uses the term "hybrid" to describe the new meta game. For a DD caster this simply means flexibility is now the road to success. The ability to do more than one thing well is so important, mainly because one build can't beat every other build in the game.
We could nit-pick this or that, count brass tacks, compare apples to oranges or get bogged down in discussing which legendary armor, pet or weapon works best under what conditions and combinations, but really what good would this do? No character type or build is unbeatable, NONE.
My phrase to live by in Nod: "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche.
My best advice to anyone wanting to be a DD stave caster is
1) There is no Easy Button
2) Cap skills
3) Build Flexibility into your Character
4) Use multi-suits, pouches and rune sets

nuff' said for now

[SiSiX]

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[SiSiX]

Just clearing out my posts is all, hit reply instead of edit...


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