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Old 12-03-2010, 07:01 PM   #1
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Default idea to improve nod economy.

Ban xenn and wipe out 150 or so tcs.

Thats my idea. I think it's made of winning.
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:13 PM   #2
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a way to improve the nod economy is to get more people to play the game!
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:46 PM   #3
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More people = worse economy.

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Runescape
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:56 PM   #4
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An idea for "lost Loot". You can find lost gold on squares where a player has died from Creature or boss combat. And any other player or the same player can find their "lost loot" after creature combat like the foraging mini game in the form of a slightly invisible floating bag of gold (or treasure chest) but just Gold.


so when a person dies the first time they lose 100 gold (or less if they don't have that much gold) if your above level 20, if your below level 20 you only lose Rested time

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Old 12-16-2010, 12:36 AM   #5
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So far we got opinions on resellers, inflamation, beggers, undercutting.

Now for the proposal idea.

I notice we are always gaining gold most times from chests after Creature Combat (mob battles), I propose that a player loses gold whenever they die from Creature Combat.

The amount of gold a player loses depends on how high their level is whenever they die by Creature Combat (you also wonder where they get their gold in the first place).

As an example 10 gold per level when dying by creatures instead of just losing time, you lose time and gold. I think it would encourage people to group more for safer battles and save more Rested Time in the process.

And to Add to that. An idea for lost Treasure. Like Treasure Sense, instead of getting a Gold Rush you find extra gold on squares where the player has died yet any other player of any level can find anothers missing loot, but just Gold.


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yup, kind of didn't made sense the first time :P
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Question yup, kind of didn't made sense the first time :P

yup, now just re - edited it o.O
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:35 AM   #7
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So far we got opinions on resellers, inflamation, beggers, undercutting.

Now for the proposal idea.

I notice we are always gaining gold most times from chests after Creature Combat (mob battles), I propose that a player loses gold whenever they die from Creature Combat.

The amount of gold a player loses depends on how high their level is whenever they die by Creature Combat (you also wonder where they get their gold in the first place).

As an example 10 gold per level when dying by creatures instead of just losing time, you lose time and gold. I think it would encourage people to group more for safer battles and save more Rested Time in the process.

And to Add to that. An idea for lost Treasure. Like Treasure Sense, instead of getting a Gold Rush you find extra gold on squares where the player has died yet any other player of any level can find anothers missing loot, but just Gold.


I might have a few more idea's for this thread later on too (due to how the person named the title for this Thread )


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I`m dying in PvE what - once a month, maybe not even that. That 850 gp I wouldn't even notice missing. Besides its not that we just lose RRT, not money for one simple reason: RRT IS money. If anything I`d make us lose more time. OR die more often by giving the mobs more power, some special abilities, anything. Of course then we'd get ourselves a situation where 95% of Nod community starts whining that they can't farm. And I still fail to see how would that improve the economy.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:13 AM   #8
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no way in hell you are touching my teecees!

what i will say might annoy most people but the real problem is gold income is too much and epics drop too often, as a result gold and epics are pretty worthless now
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gold is still worth quite a bit epics are just worthless
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:18 AM   #10
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gold is still worth quite a bit epics are just worthless
if i use a TC for 7 hours i gain 600-700k gold (chest+selling all trophies)

cost 180k, gain 700k, i can still pay 500k for a TC and make profit, most other capped can make that too

yet some people say in an all-knowing manner "wut!? i would never pay more than 150k for a TC! that would be the day i r leaving nod"

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:35 PM   #12
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if i use a TC for 7 hours i gain 600-700k gold (chest+selling all trophies)

cost 180k, gain 700k, i can still pay 500k for a TC and make profit, most other capped can make that too

yet some people say in an all-knowing manner "wut!? i would never pay more than 150k for a TC! that would be the day i r leaving nod"

geez
A) u kill incredibly fast as only capped casters do which isnt most capped players

B) you make 600-700k from chests + SELLING ALL TROPHIES selling trophies doesnt bring any extra gold into the economy all selling trophies does is moves the gold around the gold from chests is brought into the economy and leaves the economy through ports such as rp purchases font/secondary class changes or even buying an item from the store takes gold out of the economy you make 600-700k from a TC im assuming MAYBE 100k of that is from chests so everytime you farm a TC you can buy what 1 piece of capped armor? 3 rank 20 gems? and the gold is taken out of the economy
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There are modifiers that alter drop chance when you go AFK based on what you do when gone. We will list them here:
  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
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  • Urinate +20%
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A) u kill incredibly fast as only capped casters do which isnt most capped players

B) you make 600-700k from chests + SELLING ALL TROPHIES selling trophies doesnt bring any extra gold into the economy all selling trophies does is moves the gold around the gold from chests is brought into the economy and leaves the economy through ports such as rp purchases font/secondary class changes or even buying an item from the store takes gold out of the economy you make 600-700k from a TC im assuming MAYBE 100k of that is from chests so everytime you farm a TC you can buy what 1 piece of capped armor? 3 rank 20 gems? and the gold is taken out of the economy
there is no difference, while selling trophies money transacts between 2 player, same while buying gems or armor. so its still in game

plus, its 400-500k for non-casters, still pretty high
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:17 AM   #14
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guess what happens when gold transacts between 2 players? no new money is created in fact gold is destroyed so selling trophies actually takes gold out of the economy increasing the value of the gold
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:23 AM   #15
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guess what happens when gold transacts between 2 players? no new money is created in fact gold is destroyed so selling trophies actually takes gold out of the economy increasing the value of the gold
takes gold out of economy? money is still in the game dude... only buying "from game" takes money out of NOD, like buying gems from stores or spending on tempers, RP does and thus, jeff needs to add such stuff to spend gold on or decrease income which doesnt seem quite possible
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:24 AM   #16
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ever heard of this thing called goblin tax?
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  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:47 AM   #17
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ever heard of this thing called goblin tax?
its just %1 for me and even if it is %5 thats a measly amount which is not enough to balance gold flow of game
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:56 AM   #18
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lets not forget that xenn is an intolerable tool, and should DIAF.
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yup, updated original post o.O
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Smile yup, updated original post o.O

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An idea for "lost Loot". You can find lost gold on squares where a player has died from Creature or boss combat. And any other player or the same player can find their "lost loot" after creature combat like the foraging mini game in the form of a slightly invisible floating bag of gold (or treasure chest) but just Gold.

so when a person dies the first time they lose 100 gold (or less if they don't have that much gold) if your above level 20, if your below level 20 you only lose Rested time.

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How about this one o.O?
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im happy your song is the summers best, maybe the radio can now stop playing it every 2 seconds becuase any coolness it had is long gone now
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