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Old 10-25-2010, 02:27 PM   #1
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woooot so any one wanna guess how this is gonna be

im guessing lvl req and half or third on secondary class maybe with a skill for it
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:48 PM   #2
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:56 PM   #3
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dont care yoky :P

cheers glitch for listening to us and putting it in.

cant wait now
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:03 PM   #4
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I know maybe this is a bit too late to comment, however I never thought that this idea will make live.

To be honest, a much better idea would be to implement totally new classes (as my clannie suggested) or do something different with balancing.

Right now as horrible as my view of this would be:

Judging by arena experience and talks around nodi:

Since you cant possible make a dual class out of melee and caster (different weapons and mana/energy requirements).

All melees will become BM/Guardians/Paladins as 2ndry class

All casters will become Angels as 2ndry class.

I may be wrong on this but thats my view..

I know some players are unhappy with their classes but maybe its a better idea to focus on their buffs rather then totally washing away the thin red line that each of us a little bit unique ?

I play only because i find it interesting to be one of the very few guardians out there, enjoying my only little blocking thing that noone else has and feeling a little bit unique...

Please dont take that away from us.........


Maybe make class based weapons ? With bonuses to player their class only (ty to clannie for idea as well)


PS. What if a paladin becomes an angel as 2ndry ? Double huge heal ?
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take everything away from everyone! regeners shall rule you all!!!

i'm kidding, glitch will be fair, i hope he doesn't play ANY favortism. the game has suffered already
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:20 PM   #6
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Im with Music ( yes it sounds weird) in a kind of way, i hope you do a good job and take care of disadvantages/advantages of for example, an Angel now that is op would be even more op as i see it.

And also i would like to be a Magician/Magician like Music said, this will balance out a little more the game but also people would lose their mojo.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:53 PM   #7
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i think a lot of people will do what music said, but since it should stay with one ability and assuming the secondary will be a reduced bonus then classes shouldnt get way OP by this. I know for myself i will choose whatever will make me a better tank being another of the few guardians.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:56 PM   #8
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This will be interesting indeed
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:01 PM   #9
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i know on my main ill be picking rogue

that way i have a weapon master and rogue piercer
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I don't think any secondary clan choices should be limited. The openness of it and customization make it great.

I like the simple idea of the 2nd class having half the bonuses of the first.

Additionally, glitch can then advertise 26 unique classes and up to 626 different class combinations.

This easily falls in the win column for everyone.
I still think this from the idea thread. Glad to see it implemented and hope it's as open as possible. The problem with trying to nerf combinations is that there will likely be some missed and people will adjust anyway. I like the simple idea of having half the bonus in the secondary class as you do the first. Whatever the amount is, I just suggest keeping it as simple as possible to maximize allowable customization.

I think this will be a great addition to the game.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:37 PM   #11
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Hopefully, it will be a new batch of secondary classes and not just the subbing one of the original classes
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:51 PM   #12
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I'm ok with 2ndary classes as long as they're implemented well...aka...WHEN you get to choose and WHAT bonuses you actually get.

I have a feeling that the best way to keep it balanced is to NOT give each toon a 2nd CA. They only get the CA of their first class. Then you can go ahead and give full class bonuses from the 2nd class without worrying too much about any combo being OP, save maybe BM/Vamp or Angel/Priest. However since *most* bonuses are 5-15%, the ones to watch out for are really the ones larger than that...aka, BM and Pally, with 24% apiece (alcoholic is fine, rogue should be fine as well). W/2 CAs tho(even if 2nd is 1/2 power or w/e), the heal classes will be...uber retarded...let alone op, imo, and I'd basically say goodbye to arena/PvP until something was done about it.
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:59 PM   #13
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thanks Glitchless and cant wait for more info
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Not that it matters, at all.
But I'm proud of Glitchless for taking on this project, we've been suggesting it for like 2 years. Will surely make Nod a much more individualized gaming experience.

I would consider playing again, if they do a good job with it. (Another thing that doesn't matter)
When I say "good job" I mean:

NOT nerfing it down to boredom. Leaving pros and cons to dual-classing. Leaving some room to breathe and not locking it down to tight, further increasing the cloneliness of Nodiatis.
Make it a challenge to do, not just a "click here to dual-class", unique quests, quest items, TIME & EFFORT CONSUMING TASKS.
So that when you finally dual class, your proud of your accomplishment, and you then take pride and careful consideration in your next decision; Which class to secondary with.

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Down Boi!!! :P

I agree, Well done Glitch.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:21 PM   #17
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Thx Glitchless~

But isn't the next "major" patch supposed to be the Clan Territory Control
Does this mean that Secondary Classes won't matter much or be very important?
Cause most people think a second Class is major. I'm not complaining, just curious.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:59 PM   #18
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to quote what i said in a dif thread:

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i like the quest idea.

you would have to "prove your worth" to start to master another class. would have to kill an OP elite boss and collect a bunch of rare items that are drop only in certain areas. and are only able to group with those of similar class to find these items. soo could be a group of 3 warriors, or 3 regeners or 3 weapon masters.
i would LOVE to see the quest idea put in for getting Duel Classed
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:20 PM   #20
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i would also like to see the abilty to drop the second class and pick up a different one, starting from scratch again or some cost, ofc. Dependant on how you will get the second class itn he firtst place ofc
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