Town Walking Macro

[lankas]

gj glitch, there are many players using makroing, so long way to go

Indeed, good work!

And yes lots to go -_-...

[flipynifty]

i know of some that have told me they are macroing... glad they are starting to dissapear. I won't tattle personally, it's not my job.

[Weirdgus]

Good job, burn the Cheaters!!

where can i get one of these mac....

i mean good job glitchless...

[tamik]

want a hug glitchy? <3

[Smashbros]

yay for more banning for cheaters.

[Kyron]

lol town walking with macros is almost a year old and now first ban with it.. damn blazing fast reaction....

WHEN DO WE GET TO USE KEYBOARD TO WALK NOT FRIGGIN MOUSE

[Sanluciferr]

You are missing the point i think Dino, as far as i know (just my common sense) you can do that but you must be there, i mean playing , not afk.

I dont know if it make sense OR im not even sure if i am right but thats what my common sense tells me, otherwise there is no way that someone can detect it (unless he made a program to detect where your X: Y: Z: click are hitting).

[Monu]

lmao @ tracking keystrokes


I wonder if dumpy has his mouse a "stick" and clicks on ales mouth

[thatperson]

you can make a macro that corresponds a key on ur keyboard to do something as long as its a single action (such as moving) but u cant make a macro that plays the game for you without any input aside from start

[Tragicallyhip]

Yeah San, My guess is it's a program that tracks your mouse click to the pixel. If The same pixel location is continuous for long periods of time without stopping then boom, afk Macro

[Faithfulservant]

Dino,why so low green magic?

[Monu]

Pixil???


Hob must have a bot that auto attacks too.... idk how u can create a bot that sensitive unless u use image matching and when that image comes up, a certain click - (auto attack) is turned on.


1. Ex. aka pixel copy-Mountain rattler, match. 890x 517 screen location click- wait wait wait image shift file CleanNdread.jpg, exit @ 500 x 700, move one north 490x700 icon location.

The example above uses image pixel identification and screen location.....



2. I don't think Glitchless can track that. I think he msgs people who are on for abnormal times, like being logged after entering combat; If they are not talking back, he suspects they are botting and tries again another night. If they are not responding, he bans them. of course, adventuring with the same actions may be suspect.





I think that the pixel tracking via. Ex. 1 would be too complicated and has too many errors and probably isn't reliable. Example two might be better, as Glitchless has been out of DnD a few times.

[thatperson]

Originally Posted by Monu

Pixil???


Hob must have a bot that auto attacks too.... idk how u can create a bot that sensitive unless u use image matching and when that image comes up, a certain click - (auto attack) is turned on.


1. Ex. aka pixel copy-Mountain rattler, match. 890x 517 screen location click- wait wait wait image shift file CleanNdread.jpg, exit @ 500 x 700, move one north 490x700 icon location.

The example above uses image pixel identification and screen location.....



2. I don't think Glitchless can track that. I think he msgs people who are on for abnormal times, like being logged after entering combat; If they are not talking back, he suspects they are botting and tries again another night. If they are not responding, he bans them. of course, adventuring with the same actions may be suspect.





I think that the pixel tracking via. Ex. 1 would be too complicated and has too many errors and probably isn't reliable. Example two might be better, as Glitchless has been out of DnD a few times.

LMFAO that just makes me laugh so hard yes glitchless can track the bots as he said they dont ban unless they are 100% positive that they are botting (just PMing them doesnt mean they will respond even if they got it)

[Astor]

Originally Posted by Monu

Pixil???


Hob must have a bot that auto attacks too.... idk how u can create a bot that sensitive unless u use image matching and when that image comes up, a certain click - (auto attack) is turned on.


1. Ex. aka pixel copy-Mountain rattler, match. 890x 517 screen location click- wait wait wait image shift file CleanNdread.jpg, exit @ 500 x 700, move one north 490x700 icon location.

The example above uses image pixel identification and screen location.....



2. I don't think Glitchless can track that. I think he msgs people who are on for abnormal times, like being logged after entering combat; If they are not talking back, he suspects they are botting and tries again another night. If they are not responding, he bans them. of course, adventuring with the same actions may be suspect.





I think that the pixel tracking via. Ex. 1 would be too complicated and has too many errors and probably isn't reliable. Example two might be better, as Glitchless has been out of DnD a few times.

Monu your example 2 is wrong..... See following quote and read the last sentence :

Originally Posted by Glitchless

Note that we do not like banning people for macroing. No one gets banned unless we are absolutely 100% positive that they are indeed macroing. Finding players who are macroing can take time, however, confirming that they are macroing is simple and scientific and does not rely on asking for player responses.

And Dino, Jeff has stated that he does not mind "hot key programs" used to do actions in Nod. Such as pressing Ctrl + Shift + 1 to switch to gem pouch 1, or Ctrl + 1 to drag a gem into your 1st slot, or 1 to cast the gem in your first slot. Stuff like that. But you have to be physically making the program do that action. You can not have the ability to be afk and cause the actions. So if you want download a program and set your arrow keys to move.

EDIT : Here you go Dino, found the post for you.

Originally Posted by Glitchless

We will soon be beginning a security check to ensure that players are not botting and/or using forms of automation. Players who are not botting do not need to worry about the check interfering with their normal play. Players can still minimize the game or leave the room while fights are finishing without fear of being accused of botting. Players are even allowed to use whatever macro programs they want to in order to perform simple, multiple actions as long as they are initiating those actions. However, if your screen is flashing bright yellow and there is a huge message in your face instructing you to perform a certain action and yet you continue to keep clicking the same spots on the screen over and over like a mindless robot trying to initiate new fights then it will be obvious that there is not a human controlling those actions and your account will be in jeopardy.

These security checks will be extremely rare on purpose and may vary in appearance to prevent botters from being able to detect them.

To reiterate: Normal players and players using simple macros for mundane tasks such as hotkeying do not need to change their gameplay. As long as you are not automating fight after fight then you will likely never even see these security checks in your Nodiatis lifetime.

[Monu]

Security evolved...

before it was:


You are clicking fast blah blah are you botting? press yes to die!



Now ... o_O

[Arttemis]

what about g15/g19/ other keyboards with macro keys/functions ?

I mean, macro's can be made to emulate mouse clicks, so theres the ability to have them traveling for you at the press of a button, though i guess you would need to press it after each trip...

input?

and for those of you that want to be able to travel using your keyboard instead of mouse, there you go, each g key can be used to click a direction, you're in with a win XD

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by Arttemis

what about g15/g19/ other keyboards with macro keys/functions ?

I mean, macro's can be made to emulate mouse clicks, so theres the ability to have them traveling for you at the press of a button, though i guess you would need to press it after each trip...

input?

and for those of you that want to be able to travel using your keyboard instead of mouse, there you go, each g key can be used to click a direction, you're in with a win XD

aslong as your sitting tehre initiating those macros, and the macro is a simple thing, like moving a gem into slot 1, or moving upwards, then yes it is allowed.

It's much more complex and simplistic than you give it credit for Monu. Image matching is really what a bot is all about. Match enough pixels and perform an action. But it's more complicated than that. Most 3rd party apps that do image matching will also let you throw in a random value to where to click the mouse. I.e. x becomes x+random(z) and y becomes y+random(z1) where x,y define the lower left coordinate of the image being matched, and z/z1 are the upper/right limits of the image. This gives the bot the ability to click anywhere on the treasure chest, for example. So then you have to take into account timing. How much time between a fight ending and a chest being clicked on? Is it the same amount +-X milliseconds every fight? However, a good bot will take this into account as well, and randomize its timing. The third factor is excessive clicking, which we've all already seen in the old 'are you a bot' message. Finally, and perhaps the most complex, is pattern matching as a whole. What are the patterns of the clicker (you)? This is highly complex to get right, and a bot can't work around it. What you do when you are active, online, and really playing is -always- going to be different than what your bot does. This is the human variable. A bot can mimic a person's playing, but not their habits. This however, is most likely to be too processor intensive to be used in a web game...just depends on how it is implemented.

Or, it's just all a hoax and Glitchless does nothing until someone complains and they have a real suspect, then they just monitor them for a while