casters are too OP

[RogueTigeR]

I am not going to rummage thru a 3 ft. post and delete most of it so i will just quote it myself...

"DW is for pure offense with melee's survivability. 2H is for decent offense with a much better defense. Casters are high DPS low survivability but quicker/more heals. Archers are all arounders. Shield users are pure defense."

umm... no
from best----------------------------Worst
Offense:
Caster--DW'er--Archer--2H'er--Shield
Defense:
Shield--Archer(b/c of shield option)--DW'er--2H'er and Caster

I do not know where the idea came from that 2h'ers had this great defense, you are not the first to suggest this, but it is completely wrong. Not only does dw out DPS 2H'ers, but they out defend 2H'ers aswell. 2H'ers have 1 protection skill, parry. Mirrored blade does not do any actual protecting, it is an offensive skill. How have so many people forgotten that the melee 2H'er is the same as a staff, or cousin if you will, yet still claim casters are the worst defensive build there is...
And dont believe me?.. test it.. i sure did.. when cap was 80 and i was trying to solo 92 boss I tried w/ 2H'er.. and I tried DW.. I did not succeed w/ either.. but I lasted almost 2.5x longer w/ dw.

and for your delay calculations... Recastables are a much much bigger part than you have anticipated, not to mention cantrips, and lets not forget incantation rune..... having said this and bitched about your superfluous comparisons, I still do not believe a DD caster is OP.

[figgy]

Of course not rogue, that is because there are no op classes, just op players

that said, nerf caster anyways, nerf them good

well i have to agree with San when he said "build yourself a caster and then think about how OP they are". You really need to see it from their eyes to know the truth.
Truth is
results = what you put into it. If you spend >8hrs a day and >$200 a day then YES you will be more OP than someone who does 1-2 hrs and like 10 bucks.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PUT IN.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by StormGuardian

3rd to last paragraph, no I didnt forget caster damage. But I also haven't added in melee DoT/DD, or opening shot either. Like I said, this is an approximation of DPD, NOT EXACT, so you can't take it and say well Storm said this!!!11one1one. There are TONS of other things that can add bits and pieces to DPD that will totally skew those numbers...to get it exact you'd have to have all the skills and test it over hours of gameplay. Not to mention I've already correct this "simple dumbed down version" 3 times thanks to Smash and Zanthyr and Zanthyr again haha...don't take those numbers as "end all" calculations, they're merely estimates.


Jut an fyi, if you /inspect capped casters, you'll notice that 90+% of them have Str <100%, and also if you were able to inspect their gem pouches, you'd find angelic Rk 4 or 5, practically minimizing staff damage. Gems are what everyone is worried about anyway.

Opening bowshot is WORTHLESS to meleers. It adds a tiny bit of delay, and almost no damage, since most meleers enchant - int. Same applies to DDs.

Also, casters can add DoTs too, but they get extra bonuses for using them.

I can't resist.

Complaining about casters with staves is like a caster complaining about melees who use DDs or DoTs... Believe it or not, you can still do 3k crits without staves but there are few melee who are willing to sac. str for cnc, int and pst because its expensive as hell, and even I, as a caster, struggle to maintain a nice balance. Just as there are few melees who use DD and DoT, there are just as few casters willing to sac DD dps for staves. If I traded my str for more pst, I'd do a lot more DD damage and those arena insta heals will be even more beneficial to me - its a tradeoff. I'm not even sure if I want to keep str half of the time because at times, I believe that the benefits of the angellic aura + pst trumps stave damage. Huggles, what is your argument against staves dps? That they have almost the same skills? Theres a reason why >90% of casters ditch staves.

and lol @a melee's trishot being useless. Stave damage is useless if you don't put points in str. DDs are useless if you don't have CnC and Int. You're just a lev 20... I'm just saying.

[flipynifty]

buffing regeners will make casters less OP

will buffing casters also create world peace and end all poverty?

[thatperson]

im OP