04-15-2010, 11:54 PM
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Epic Scholar
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see you proved how ****ing retarded you are AGAIN.
i wrote:
i said:
and then i put a quote of MYSELF. cause I WROTE it.
seriously check before you open your ****ing mouth.
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However you want to spin it, buddy. This patch was specifically designed to somehow screw you over.
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We are well aware of the over-dramatic reactions to game changes in an effort to skew perception. It doesn't work, just makes them look like cry babies.
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04-16-2010, 06:11 AM
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Wooooooooof wooooooooooooooof!
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04-16-2010, 06:47 AM
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Rare Collector
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Originally Posted by Misguided
as far as the actual patch........i think it sux....i pay taxes when when i farm already, i pay taxes when i buy/ sell in AH.....i dont wanna pay another clan tax to be able to farm somewhere
im sure im not alone in this thought......if this game has come down to who has the deepest pockets (after all, this a FREE MMO) then i need to find another game to play
it has been a fun 18 or so months, but i refuse to pay another clan to walk out of a town a do what this game is set up for, farming......so, if/when this patch goes lives, i will take all my paid accts PK, and resign from playing....gratz on totally FAWKING this game up, it used to be fun, but the recent patches have taken a turn for the worse
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This was exactly what I thought when I saw this.
"Oh noes more taxes."
I second what this man said.
Although, if this patch gives the clans an ability to control actual territory on the map, it is a very intriguing idea. It could make clan warfare dynamic and interesting. Clans would be fighting for control of actual territory and a certain number of lost clan battles could result in a loss of the territory; the opponent clan would then have control over the contested territory.
But I am still not digging the idea of getting taxed without receiving anything of value in return.
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04-16-2010, 08:32 AM
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Yer all just dumb. Aint there no clan that play free and is smart enuf to see this game is all about being an asshat and not about having sooper dooper clans? You ppl just dont get it.
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04-16-2010, 09:07 AM
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what the....
jeff I haz 3 three fitty on my paypal,can you gief me 1 discount TC?
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04-16-2010, 10:21 AM
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Boss Hunter
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Yer all just dumb. Aint there no clan that play free and is smart enuf to see this game is all about being an asshat and not about having sooper dooper clans? You ppl just dont get it.
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Well, at least now when I'm fishing there's someone I can sell boots to.
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04-16-2010, 12:07 PM
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Seer's BFF
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i read the patch write up by Glitchy....it says clans will be able to tax the land they control
so, i understand this as, if you farm there, you pay that clan......am i wrong in this assumption??
and by doing so, i will no longer play...ill be damned if im going to pay some other clan for the "right" to farm trophies....plain and simple
Smash is all high and mighty on himself and chaos....and rightfully so, they bought their way to the top of the list......but im not contributing to their RP, if i wanted to do that, i would ask Raven if i could suck his ass like everyone else in that clan
so, my option, as stated by Smashy, ill quit, but ill go out in style, taking out some noobs with smash and crush!! 
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04-16-2010, 12:33 PM
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Only select, higher level areas of the map are likely to be available for clan control and taxes. There will likely be some low caps on taxes like 15% to prevent abuse. Furthermore players will have a choice as to whether or not they wish to pay the taxes, however, those who do not will be attackable by that clan. Being killed in such a manner will have similar results to losing a clan battle ie no real losses just a trip back to the last town you visited.
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04-16-2010, 01:36 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Define "high-lvl areas", because if it means the lvl80 range areas where capped players farm, then MG's feelings are somewhat justified. Chaos members pwn, regardless of how they got there. This patch sounds more and more like giving the mob protection money so u don't have an "accident". With the details we have available atm, extortion will be legal in Nod when this patch goes live, we will have to wait and see what comes of it.
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04-16-2010, 01:56 PM
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ooooh protection money and extortion? i am begining to like this patch more and more but why not make all of nod taxable not just select high areas? so alot of people can get involved not just capped.
not exactly sure what you mean by this statment "Furthermore players will have a choice as to whether or not they wish to pay the taxes, however, those who do not will be attackable by that clan. Being killed in such a manner will have similar results to losing a clan battle ie no real losses just a trip back to the last town you visited" but i like it as it sounds sorta like lagal free game PKing. and what if the person farming the area without paying tax kills the member of the clan trying to kill them, do they get something extra for killing the enforcer of that land? that would be great i like it
but i really do think that this should be done with all parts of Nod not just a select few areas and would be nice if there where clan rank ranges for areas just so one clan dosnt dominate the whole playing field (like maybe #1 clan can controll such and such area unless they get another area from a clan battle with another lower clan) #2 clan could control another said area and so forth till all areas are controlled or something like that
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Only select, higher level areas of the map are likely to be available for clan control and taxes. There will likely be some low caps on taxes like 15% to prevent abuse. Furthermore players will have a choice as to whether or not they wish to pay the taxes, however, those who do not will be attackable by that clan. Being killed in such a manner will have similar results to losing a clan battle ie no real losses just a trip back to the last town you visited.
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04-16-2010, 03:18 PM
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Please make it so that you can force war on any clan that taxes any territory. Its great so far, i love how you can refuse to pay.
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04-16-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Misguided
i read the patch write up by Glitchy....it says clans will be able to tax the land they control
so, i understand this as, if you farm there, you pay that clan......am i wrong in this assumption??
and by doing so, i will no longer play...ill be damned if im going to pay some other clan for the "right" to farm trophies....plain and simple
Smash is all high and mighty on himself and chaos....and rightfully so, they bought their way to the top of the list......but im not contributing to their RP, if i wanted to do that, i would ask Raven if i could suck his ass like everyone else in that clan
so, my option, as stated by Smashy, ill quit, but ill go out in style, taking out some noobs with smash and crush!! 
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im actually with this depending on whether or not it notifies people when u dont pay tax or not would make it alright if you could refuse to pay the tax
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04-16-2010, 04:22 PM
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im actually with this depending on whether or not it notifies people when u dont pay tax or not would make it alright if you could refuse to pay the tax
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It'd only be applicable during a war right? So yea, not as if there's many legit ones going on.
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04-16-2010, 04:52 PM
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so...give up 15% of my chests or die?? sounds fawkin BRILLIANT
you either pay to farm or dont farm at all??
i refuse to pay, but im not willing to die, so.....I QUIT PLAYING altogether....gratz on this move Glitchy, when your player base disappears, will you wonder why?
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04-16-2010, 05:41 PM
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misguided, read the storyline of nodiatis again. there's nothing in there about it being a fair carebear world free of all forms of oppression and extortion. if you can't hang then go play wow. boo hoo, clans might actually have a cool purpose now other than runes.
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04-16-2010, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Glitchless
Only select, higher level areas of the map are likely to be available for clan control and taxes. There will likely be some low caps on taxes like 15% to prevent abuse. Furthermore players will have a choice as to whether or not they wish to pay the taxes, however, those who do not will be attackable by that clan. Being killed in such a manner will have similar results to losing a clan battle ie no real losses just a trip back to the last town you visited.
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I cannot think of a more fair, or interesting way of implementing this, nice work and good planning on Glitchlesses behalf. Fully appreciated and supported.
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misguided, read the storyline of nodiatis again. there's nothing in there about it being a fair carebear world free of all forms of oppression and extortion. if you can't hang then go play wow. boo hoo, clans might actually have a cool purpose now other than runes.
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Nominated for post of the week, Misguided seems to be the only one crying, what does that tell you? Relax MG, ffs.
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04-16-2010, 10:20 PM
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meh.....im just stating truth, and have the balls to do so....
Relic doesnt give a sh!t cuz he is in chaos, and he has the #2 spot in XP gains, soooo.......
all us little guys are the ones who will not benefit....basically, join chaos or vip or else....aint happening
this so-called "free" game has always catered to the "deep-pockets" who play....and quite frankly, its retarded
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04-16-2010, 11:10 PM
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Epic Scholar
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I agree with everyone. I would hope that the larger clans that have the most terr/dom/rp should somehow be able to be targetted for losses of such by other smaller clans. This allows for the game to not be controlled by some "superclan" and will allow for some fun/extortion/killing.
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04-16-2010, 11:16 PM
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yes, they should have bigger potential losses than those abusing the "tax system"... they should have to protect their investment constantly. It should be hard to constantly hold control over 1 zone for any lengthy period of time. Maybe some sort of capture the flag system could be put in place.
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04-16-2010, 11:36 PM
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this so-called "free" game has always catered to the "deep-pockets" who play....and quite frankly, its retarded
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I would confidently bet mine and your mothers lives that I have spent less than half of what you have spent total on Nodiatis (USD). I bought Accell Upgrade with Timecards that I attained by selling an epic 58 leg. Bought Virtues 1 at a time with Timecards, been eating Timecards once every 10 days for premium since I started Niodiatis, and to many peoples amazement just finally purchased the Grinder Upgrade 1 month prior to the release of "Travel Mode". I would put my total USD spent at or below $40.00 USD and that is for 2 years of play.
You're implying that the game "caters to deep pockets" and I do fully agree with you, people who can afford upgrades for 3-10 or more accounts will always be #1 and there is nothing us solo players can ever do about it, money does equal power in Nodiatis just as it does in real life. But at the same time you are also implying that it is impossible to become a higher ranking individual without "deep pockets" which is completely false, I was #1 for a year straight, and now #2 which is living proof of that claim.
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