Archer Whining

Ok, so enough with the whining about archers. I could understand it if it was coming from someone who played to a reasonable level in beta and compared them to other high level classes. But mostly I hear from people who made it to level 12 or under and find that the archer is "insanely overpowered."

First of all, the archer may be easier to begin with. Same as the vamp is RWK, but noone plays the vamp after level 10 for a reason. If you were to look at the DPS of the high level weapons for an archer, you'll notice that the DPS is lower starting in the level 30s or so then other classes. For example, my dual-wielding warrior and weaponmaster both had higher dps then my archer, who was two levels higher. Also, casters at high level can do 600 damage per cast. No bow I've seen can do even close to that. So I'm sure once someone gets to that level, these same people will be whining about casters. Even a beastmaster with decent pets and dual wielding can outdo archers if played right. The delay that archers have is there for a reason. So is the expense and the higher level lower dps of later bows.

The point is, stop whining so much about it until you've actually played the game for more then a week or two and completely understand the benefits and detriments to each class.

Well said and I agree.

=] Thanks.. a Well needed post
There was a huge long.. drawn out argument last night that needed this
Davina isnt saying Archers sucks.. Davina is saying they start with an advantage then slowly other classes catch up... Every class has its ups and downs.. No class is Superior then any other.. if there was then everyone would be the same class :P lol All are even one way or another

Originally Posted by antwon09

Every class has its ups and downs.. No class is Superior then any other.. if there was then everyone would be the same class :P lol All are even one way or another

Hold your horses there cowboy, are you telling me that an Alcoholic is on par with everyone else?

[doctor-warlord]

only the classes that have tradeskill bonuses for there class might be a bit weaker in combat area then the other classes even later but generally i think the classes balances out

... well i was talking about the good classes :P
Lol Just playing...
I think alcoholics should have a big str bonus but a low.. well i forgot what skill it is.. but less accuracy.. never tested them...

i tested them they are quick lvlers but the fear effect as it stands now is a giant turn off i find, perhaps the ability to ignore or shed off x dmg per hit would be a better benifit something low

You're right, I did only get to around 12 in beta before I stopped playing. The reason for that is how fast archers were progressing as opposed to everyone else. Here's WHY I got angry, and why I am still a bit miffed at archers.

By doing more damage, they can kill stuff faster. This is obvious. Right now they have the best damage in the game, and with trishot, they're beasts. People were talking earlier about being able to pull off around 300 damage in one trishot attack. Yeah, I know there's dual weild later. Yes, I am aware that there is a double strike skill as well. But it doesn't matter that much to me. Because by leveling faster, archers can get to those levels well ahead of the rest of us. They can get better trophies at a much faster rate, thus raising their skills at rates about equivalent to their leveling. This means they get to higher mobs faster, with better experience and, when you count random drops, the chance for better epics. I have no doubt that the first person to get the next epic is going to be an archer. Furthermore, I have no doubt that archers will be level 20 at least three days or so ahead of everyone else. Throw in the fact that it takes double the experience to raise the level 20+ skills like dual weild compared to normal xp requirements for trishot and it will take a long time to catch up. I doubt I will catch up to the likes of Decker, Bill and Style until at least level 40.

I realize it's possible to catch up. I also realize that by being a Paladin I will have a HUGE role in groups once I hit 30 and my services will be in high demand for higher risk groups. But honestly, if I don't get to catch up to some of these high grade archers by the time my premium runs out (doubtful but possible) I will probably be sticking with standard.

Long post short... until I see with my own eyes that we can catch up, I will complain here and there. Keep in mind... most of it is only half serious.

[Hopilus]

im happy with my angel. i know that she isnt a powerhouse, and never will be, at least not in melee. however, i also know, that even if it takes a bit longer for me to get there, people will be thankful for my services. i have already been told by a few, that they are happy when i agree to join them in a group. even though they are already over 5 levels above me. one would think that those said people, being that high, would scoff at teaming with a lowly lvl 10 angel.
and i am more than happy at this point, to have an archer escorting me about, so i can go into high lvl areas, get better trophies and drops, and get the bosses i need for quests.
all i can do is hope, that one day, those same people, will ask me to join them for my healing and magic capabilities.

I'm slowly raising a priest and tank.. As of now they are lvl 5.. so The best thing to do is go under the looking for group Forum.. and post Your skills as a healer/tank... Trust me.. someone will need a healer/tank at higher lvls instead of just damage.. there will be need for tanks at higher lvls My tanks lvl 5 and he is a beast.. lol Only bad thing is.. i wasnt smart enough to make a damage class to lvl with my tank and priest so i have a 100% tank and a 100% healer.. So i kill slow... grrr but oh well lol

i gotta agree with anton, i'm also lvling a tank and they are beasts he can keep up with my in places that are 3-5lvls above him he cant do much dmg but he can take it

Speaking of paladins and high risk groups......

[Hopilus]

you know what i love? people dont understand that i dont wanna be a powerhouse melee attacker. i want to be the healer of a group. i am still constantly getting people telling me to scrap my char and make a new one. so that i can solo high lvl areas faster. i hate to say it, but it is starting to get on my last nerve. dont give me advice on how to raise an angel, and i wont tell you that you are a ****ing retard for telling me my class sucks. just wait till you need a healer. dont come crawling to me.

=] Hop.. those are morons.. they have no idea what a game takes.. a game takes someone with extremely good armor and a shield for blocking and someone who heals All the time not some of the time.. that is what a group needs.. there will be bosses like that... If not.. then this game needs some.. its how a group runs effectivly.. a healer tank and dps the tanks are usually going to do good damage as well :P

Hopilus, my organisation needs healers, and ressurection. If you're interessted in adding a bit more of the element of risk to your gameplay experience, let me know.

[Hopilus]

aww, love ya spartan. if i ever decide to go pker, you will be the first to know.