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Old 02-26-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default A Recipe storage / Recipe book idea for crafters

As has been mentioned many times by many different people, storage is a huge problem for crafters.


Some things that take up space are as follows:

1) Tradeskill tools, take up one entire row or more by themselves.

2) Some space must be left empty by necessity for trophy storage, for the times when one is grinding and farming.

3) Crafting suit takes up space, as does a pvp suit if a person is using one. Add to that the equipment that one has gotten in drops but is not using currently due to a lack of an adequate skill level.

4) Completed items that the crafter is trying to sell on the auction house take up space.

5) the many different tiers of the many different resources that a crafter needs take up a copious amount of space

6) Recipes take up space as do various other things that I am sure I can not recall at the moment.
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When this potion update came out, I was eager to try my hand at potion making. However, I soon realized that storage space was going to be a major problem. 4 to 5 different master recipes from just one potion type was just too much of a burden on my already limited storage space. Here is an idea about how this problem could be dealt with:
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Recipe books: Behold



The potion book itself takes up only 1 space in a crafter's storage. Once the book is opened it has a compartment, similar to storage where multiple master recipes (only) can be placed. In order to place the recipe into the book, the crafter drags the recipe into a slot when the book is opened. Once the alloted storage space in the book is full, another book of the same sort must be purchased for further storage.

Once the recipe has been placed in the book, it can no longer be removed.

In order to use the master recipe after it has been placed in the book, one has to right click on the recipe and select the option: create field copy. Once the field copy has been created, it can, for all intents and purposes, be identical to the master recipe and have the same functionality.

[A field copy always requires a tier 1 dye and a tier 1 cloth to create and is not variable like the dye and cloth requirement of the consumable; this will increase consumption of lower level resources and give an impetus to lower levels who want to get into crafting since their products would be more desirable. ]

Idea by thatPerson:
Make the field master copy soul bound so that it can not be sold; circumvents a potential exploit where crafters could sell cheap copies of their master recipes for gold.


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This type of recipe book can be created for all of the recipe types:
An armor recipe book
A fletching recipe book
A weapon crafting recipe book
etc etc etc.
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Or glitchless can be nice and make this one relatively simple, and just give us one storage book that can hold an unlimited number of recipes of any type.
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Or even simpler, just implement an additional storage compartment where only tradeskill tools, resources, and recipes can be placed. This can resemble the current storage option, with the exception that only the abovementioned items could be placed in it.
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Idea by Middington:
The language skill could be tied into this in the following manner:

[SIZE="2"]Language skill: A language skill that is equal to or greater than the level of a master recipe, will allow the crafter to store the master recipe by writing it down in a recipe book for a maximum of 50 recipes per book; once the language skill has exceeded 50, each additional point will add one page to the recipe book and allow for the storage of one additional recipe per book.





Crafters please support. Everybody else, I hope you like the idea and offer some support too. It is time for crafters to get some love too.

Cheers.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:03 PM   #2
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im diggin it, id like a recipe book that can hold ALL master recipes, possibly with some sort of upgrade, able to hold consumables.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:09 PM   #3
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Personally, I find the following suggestion better than an infinite amount of space:

Able to hold 50 master recipes at first, and gains an extra space per level.

Suggested before and massively supported.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:13 PM   #4
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it could be a social skill

the book can be bought in each town, but requires 50 language, starts off at 50 master recipes, every point after 50 is another recipe.(language skill cause book reading etc etc) feel free to expand on the idea or shoot it down completely.

*EDIT* it plays along nicely with more storage being obtained by social skills, though that doesnt make sense to me, it does make sense that any kind of recipe book allowing more storage space in anotehr fashion, should follow suit of the first.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:15 PM   #5
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just one thing i would like to note that the field recipe should be either SB or marked as such

Ridged Iron Breastplate Mold (field recipe)

so that people couldnt put a master in their book and have infinite copies of it to sell



other than that i fully support
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:17 PM   #6
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it could be a social skill

the book can be bought in each town, but requires 50 language, starts off at 50 master recipes, every point after 50 is another recipe.(language skill cause book reading etc etc) feel free to expand on the idea or shoot it down completely.

*EDIT* it plays along nicely with more storage being obtained by social skills, though that doesnt make sense to me, it does make sense that any kind of recipe book allowing more storage space in anotehr fashion, should follow suit of the first.
mid posted at same time as me...i would say make it something like 10 language to use it (so as to not discourage low level crafters) and every 2 levels after gain 1 slot (starts with 50 slots) otherwise great idea
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There are modifiers that alter drop chance when you go AFK based on what you do when gone. We will list them here:
  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
  • Watch TV -5%
  • Urinate +20%
  • Finish your homework +10%
  • Stand on your head for 5+ minutes +33%

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Old 02-26-2010, 10:20 PM   #7
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it could be a social skill

the book can be bought in each town, but requires 50 language, starts off at 50 master recipes, every point after 50 is another recipe.(language skill cause book reading etc etc) feel free to expand on the idea or shoot it down completely.
Wonderful idea with the language skill Middington

The language skill could be thought of as the ability to read and write in a way; it could allow someone to copy the master recipe into the book supposedly. An implementation of the following sort would work great and your suggestion was right on the money:

Language skill: A language skill that is equal to or greater than the level of a master recipe, will allow the crafter to store the master recipe by writing it down in a recipe book for a maximum of 50 recipes per book; once the language skill has exceeded 50, each additional point will add one page to the recipe book and allow for the storage of one additional recipe per book.

How does that sound ?

EDIT: And great idea with making the field recipe soulbound thatPerson.
An excellent suggestion if the field recipe model is used. I will add it to my original post.

Keep the support and suggestions coming; in particular I want to hear from some of the more involved crafters
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:30 PM   #8
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i like your idea for a language skill better
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:31 PM   #9
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hehe it was your idea

I was just playing around with it.

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Old 02-27-2010, 12:16 AM   #10
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i was talking about the fact it would be making master copies (thus buying 1=having infinite) if they could be sold it would be even harder to sell a master recipe you got the right way
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There are modifiers that alter drop chance when you go AFK based on what you do when gone. We will list them here:
  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
  • Watch TV -5%
  • Urinate +20%
  • Finish your homework +10%
  • Stand on your head for 5+ minutes +33%

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Old 02-27-2010, 09:06 AM   #11
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i agree with this!

might actually motivate me to actually craft something instead of resourcing all teh time...
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:31 PM   #12
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i like this idea.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:25 PM   #13
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make the book an epic drop. this gives glitchless monetary incentive to add it to the game

Epic recipes must be added to an epic book of equal level value.


78 recipes can only be added to an recipe book of 78th lvl or above.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:21 AM   #14
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There are modifiers that alter drop chance when you go AFK based on what you do when gone. We will list them here:
  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
  • Watch TV -5%
  • Urinate +20%
  • Finish your homework +10%
  • Stand on your head for 5+ minutes +33%

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Old 02-01-2011, 05:39 AM   #15
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i support this highly detailed post trying to get more storage for people
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Support!!!
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Support cuz of the photo chop job
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I would like to be able to keep book after a reroll
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Support another great idea lost in the dusty pages of the forums..
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