Kalkong Banned - PW & Valuables Theft Awareness.

[Relic]

Another one bites the dust, I appreciate the effort and conviction once again from Glitchless.
There are still many botters out there, many have been reported but not caught yet, so if you're using any type of botting it's just a matter of time before Glitchless gets you, or before the bot-maker steals your gear, or reroll's your character because you DL'ed a Keylogger, like from Seletchi's bot's for example, which have tested positive for numerous malware and/or keyloggers.

Relic's plan of being the ONLY botter is succeeding!

Although, his bot fails compared to Mirci's!

[Smashbros]

lol.

cheers jeff, glad your getting rid of the idiots botting

[Relic]

Lmfao Sherm <3 I think I'm actually one of the only honest players left around here


Also, thank you Glitchless for announcing when people get banned, because it makes it easier to kick them from the clan, since they won't be gaining any RP or contributing in any way. As opposed to unknowingly allowing them to stay in the clan because we didn't know they were permabanned.

[Astor]

I'm an honest player, but you called me an inactive butt pirate Relic </3.... =\

[thatperson]

has anyone else noticed what all these bots seem to be doing? town walking....maybe its because its FREAKIN BORING....make town walking more interesting plox.....ok just screwing around but thanks glitchless for continuing to eliminate botters

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Astor

I'm an honest player, but you called me an inactive butt pirate Relic </3.... =\

You _ARE_ an inactive butt pirate.

Originally Posted by Astor

I'm an honest player, but you called me an inactive butt pirate Relic </3.... =\

STFU arsetore and join TmPWN!

[Conqueror]

I am very sorry to see this one. I first met this person when I was a lowly N and since then I had the opportunity to get to know him better.


Some of you people disgust me; especially some of his clannies. I am not saying that his actions were justified; I am saying that, botting does not make him the most evil person on the face of the earth. He got caught and he got banned. Justice was served. Why backbite the departed. Some people just love kicking others when they are down.


It takes a lot work, money and effort to build a character and getting perma-banned for a few measly points worth of adventuring xp is too harsh of a punishment. I know that Kalkong spent a lot of money and time on his character and on the game.


In my opinion, the botting penalty should be based on what aspect of the game the person was botting on. For cases like this one and Vicari's case, I would say that a sufficient penalty would be to reset all adventuring skills to 0.


As far as Relic's paranoia that everyone is a botter
I never cheated in any way on this game. I never even considered using a bot. I try not to click too fast just because I do not want Glitchless to get the wrong idea. And I've gotten the bot warning only once. Most people are not botters, believe it or not.


Oh well. What can I say?
I just came here to express some sympathy for a fallen comrade.
Good luck finding another game and take care Kalkong.

lawl@moralphag

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by sherman

lawl@moralphag

,;,,

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

It takes a lot work, money and effort to build a character and getting perma-banned for a few measly points worth of adventuring xp is too harsh of a punishment. I know that Kalkong spent a lot of money and time on his character and on the game.

In my opinion, the botting penalty should be based on what aspect of the game the person was botting on. For cases like this one and Vicari's case, I would say that a sufficient penalty would be to reset all adventuring skills to 0. .

Conqueror, those guys could have botted from level 1 all the way up, you do_not_know how hard they worked or what money they spent, bots can farm gold as a N and buy Timecards, real money isn't needed. If you cheat just once, even if it's small, you are KNOWINGLY placing yourself into a permabann position, and you are KNOWINGLY accepting that it is possible for you to be permabanned. As stated in the TOS. Your sympathy, is what is completely disgusting.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

As far as Relic's paranoia that everyone is a botter
I never cheated in any way on this game. I never even considered using a bot. I try not to click too fast just because I do not want Glitchless to get the wrong idea. And I've gotten the bot warning only once. Most people are not botters, believe it or not.

This statement simply insulted your own intelligence, by failing to interpret obvious sarcasm.

As for you being disgusted at his "clannies", we have every right to act as we do since him botting puts a bad image on our entire clan and he was knowingly placing his "clannies" into that position.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

,;,,

Ima assume that you mean ,,!,,


Besides, botting results in a permaban.

If Jeff backs off on this stand now, he will have revisit other permabans due to botting, and his image will be further phucked.

Go back to christia.net plox

[Conqueror]

Well I wasn't going to respond anymore, but since you posted a thoughtful response Relic, I am replying.

Originally Posted by Relic

Conqueror, those guys could have botted from level 1 all the way up, you do_not_know how hard they worked or what money they spent, bots can farm gold as a N and buy Timecards, real money isn't needed. If you cheat just once, even if it's small, you are KNOWINGLY placing yourself into a permabann position, and you are KNOWINGLY accepting that it is possible for you to be permabanned. As stated in the TOS. Your sympathy, is what is completely disgusting.

Well a level 1 can't bot as a N and make timecards at an appreciable rate.

10 gold per chest is a bit much for a level 1.

Lets say 15 second dock fights (min possible)

Means 4 fights per minute

So in one hour rt you have 2400 gold from treasure chests.

So with drop lets say 3k. And you know this is too much for a level 1 especially one who is using a bot (bots aren't as efficient as a player could be).

For a botting level 1, it would take 50 days to get 150k for a timecard.

To make botting actually work, you would have to invest your own money into the game; get the accel and grinder upgrades and burn some of your own time cards as well.

But screw this.
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I have no interest in insulting your clan either; CHAOS is a great clan.

I agree with you in principal. You are right. Like they say: spare the rod and spoil the child; or in Nod terms: spare the botter and spoil the game.

What I am saying is this: if you beat the child enough with the rod, you turn him into a serial killer.

In other words, I am saying that I think that the penalty was a bit too harsh. If he was just botting for adventuring xp, a more suitable penalty would be to reset the adventuring skills to 0.

[However, I do agree; he broke the rules; he got punished; he had it coming].

What I am saying is that the rule itself is perhaps too harsh.

Botting does not morph him into the very image of evil. Like I said, I knew the guy somewhat and he was a pretty decent person. Getting a character that you worked on banned will come as a shock to anyone [And I know that he spent money and time on the game]. I am just saying, why chastise him on the forums. He got caught and was banned. Isn't that enough ?

What is this: the Spanish inquisition.

This is kind of like the witch hunt of the 16th century. Burn him at the stake. No concept of cruel and unusual.

There is nothing disgusting about sympathy and empathy. But backbiting and chastising someone has always been considered a vice.

Anyways
Enough said.
Cheers.



EDIT:

Originally Posted by sherman

Ima assume that you mean ,,!,,


Besides, botting results in a permaban.

If Jeff backs off on this stand now, he will have revisit other permabans due to botting, and his image will be further phucked.

Go back to christia.net plox

,;,, ,,!,, ,,;, <=== pick one .... I am sure there are other ways of representing the same thing.

And where are you getting the Christain thing from ? You think I am Blazinbones or something ? I don't give two rats about Christianity.

1. quite easy to have less than 5 second mob fights on docks with archers.

2. most people at a higher level may make more gold, but they also spend it as well for enchants/upgrades/virts/etc.

3. no money required to bot and level up to get even more money and effectively bot.

4. all botting is to be banned, permanently, and should not be condoned at all. There is nothing worse than realizing you have lost ALL EXP and that the time wasted can never be returned.

5. It is quite easy to get you to rant

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by sherman

1. quite easy to have less than 5 second mob fights on docks with archers.

Treasure chest delays you dum truck.

[zenga]

Originally Posted by Relic

Another one bites the dust, I appreciate the effort and conviction once again from Glitchless.

That's called value for money.

Originally Posted by Relic

it's just a matter of time before Glitchless gets you, or before the bot-maker steals your gear, or reroll's your character because you DL'ed a Keylogger, like from Seletchi's bot's for example, which have tested positive for numerous malware and/or keyloggers.

Or it's just a matter of time until one can be arsed to start a google code project and releases an open source bot, where people just have to copy/paste the code, & execute it. This means that the code of the bot is available for everybody's review. This includes the game programmer(s), but with simple parameters there is no way to detect it.

As long as you keep telling this stuff to people i keep explaining them why it's nonsense. Not saying you do it on purpose, i'm afraid your IT knowledge ain't blong/big/wide /whatever enough to see the point. And thus you rely to trust a gamemanager who defends his business in the first place.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

Treasure chest delays you dum truck.

2 second fight + 5 seconds for chest + 1 second to exit <15 seconds, assuming loot is ignored.

If botting, it would be much easier to just passive all skills until 20+

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by sherman

2 second fight + 5 seconds for chest + 1 second to exit <15 seconds, assuming loot is ignored.

If botting, it would be much easier to just passive all skills until 20+

After you open a treasure chest, you can not open another treasure chest for another 15 seconds. Meaning your fight time can not dip below 15 seconds unless you want to skip your treasure chests.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

After you open a treasure chest, you can not open another treasure chest for another 15 seconds. Meaning your fight time can not dip below 15 seconds unless you want to skip your treasure chests.

Fight time can dip below 15 seconds and still have no delay for chest. It's called looting :P even with some people and their auto loot macro it still takes 1 second. And the chest doesnt appear immediatly after the fight it takes around 2 or 3 seconds. Pretty sure Sherman mentioned the loot thing before but reinterating it.