Kalkong Banned - PW & Valuables Theft Awareness.

[thatperson]

conq is right on this tho u cant open the chests more than 1 every 15 seconds so stop flaming him when his math is right

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by thatperson

conq is right on this tho u cant open the chests more than 1 every 15 seconds so stop flaming him when his math is right

Thank you thatperson.

Originally Posted by Pasterqb

Fight time can dip below 15 seconds and still have no delay for chest. It's called looting :P even with some people and their auto loot macro it still takes 1 second. And the chest doesnt appear immediatly after the fight it takes around 2 or 3 seconds. Pretty sure Sherman mentioned the loot thing before but reinterating it.

Paster, I was talking about a level 1 N on the docks who does not have grinder.

For such an account, the fastest farming would be opening 1 treasure chest every 15 seconds. (15 second mandatory time interval between 2 treasure chests). Even if an archer can kill in 5 seconds as Sherman says, he can not move on to the next fight until he can get his treasure chest (meaning 15 or more seconds per fight).

Sherman has no idea what he is talking about. He is just walking around taking jabs at me and looking for a fight. He didn't mention crap.

My work here is done.

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

Some of you people disgust me; especially some of his clannies. I am not saying that his actions were justified; I am saying that, botting does not make him the most evil person on the face of the earth. He got caught and he got banned. Justice was served. Why backbite the departed. Some people just love kicking others when they are down.

It has nothing to do with kicking him when he was down. i got along with him aswell. but as this isnt the first time that someone has been banned for botting he clearly knew what would happen when he was caught. as he continued to do it anyway i believe that makes him a complete and utter idiot. the same goes for all the others that bot.

In my opinion, the botting penalty should be based on what aspect of the game the person was botting on. For cases like this one and Vicari's case, I would say that a sufficient penalty would be to reset all adventuring skills to 0.

no that is no harsh enough. they are cheating to get something here, what is stopping them from using the EXACT SAME BOT, that they just got banned for, to get their skills back to 80+?? NOTHING. understandably they are able to re-create an account on here, but then they have to do everything from the start, and if they do create the account again then im sure glitchy will know and keep an eye on them for the first sign of botting to re-ban them.

Botting in general is wrong and shouldnt be done, Macros are fine aslong as they require some type of user input (so that the user is actually required to sit down and play the game).

I know of other botters aswell, and im sure alot of other people do aswell. ive reported the 1s i know and i hope others do the same aswell so that these people DO get punished for cheating and that others will learn not to do it.

and i urge everyone to take up a strict no-botting stance, especially clan leaders, and that everytime you find out someone is botting, with even a small piece of evidence, then you remove that person from your clan and report them to glitchless to deal with.

[Misguided]

HAI , Im new

whats botting and how do i get it? is it like some sort of STD? did Sexyy give it to Kalkong while camming?

[Kilor]

Misguided that was hillarious

Originally Posted by Conqueror

Thank you thatperson.



Paster, I was talking about a level 1 N on the docks who does not have grinder.

For such an account, the fastest farming would be opening 1 treasure chest every 15 seconds. (15 second mandatory time interval between 2 treasure chests). Even if an archer can kill in 5 seconds as Sherman says, he can not move on to the next fight until he can get his treasure chest (meaning 15 or more seconds per fight).

Sherman has no idea what he is talking about. He is just walking around taking jabs at me and looking for a fight. He didn't mention crap.

My work here is done.

I know a level 1 who can kill in the docks in under 2 seconds and only using lvl 5 bow set. (Which is a fast bow so even with a miss it would be a fast kill).

I don't know where i mentioned grinder though and i admit idk about level 1s anymore but seems to me chests are a waste til atleast lvl 6 or 7 mobs. Saying that i mean bliss will give way more gold and gold from quests.

If you want to get into specifics you make an account and leave it logged in til you can afford a nice bow set and a stack of 5 decent trophies which can level a skill from 0 to 6 without a rush.

[tamik]

what about account sharing? it has been silently accepted so far..

[tamik]

btw i cant find any rule that is banning botting. thats a clear contradiction to account sharing thats prohibited by general terms of use

[FastStang]

Originally Posted by Misguided

HAI , Im new

whats botting and how do i get it? is it like some sort of STD? did Sexyy give it to Kalkong while camming?

+Rep

the any sort of automation part...

[FastStang]

Seriously now..what really is the point of a game bot anyway? Aren't games meant to be used for entertainment/time consumption purposes? Metaphor of the day....Using a bot is like having a robot play a board game for you while you watch TV....stupid and pointless.

Conqueror:

If you want maximized gold farming ONLY, then no you cannot kill in under 15 seconds.

However, most bots want to level up to a certain point so you can kill faster than 15 seconds and still collect gold effectively.

I will refrain from making an essay/dissertation that Conqueror is so fond of.

The botter starts out as a free N, and wants to get to level 80 as efficiently as possible (quickest fights) while wanting decent gold accumulation rate.

Basically, the N can just level in docks and kill in under 15 seconds, skip the gold chest for now, and get the gold chest in another few kills.

Then the person can move the bot to another area and just farm/grind there and keep repeating the process.

THAT is how you can kill in under 15 seconds. You were trying to prove me wrong on the basis that a bot would loot the chest EVERY TIME.

Try again, kiddo.

[Tridius]

ok.. *plays teh part of mediator*

@ Sherman: i know your hormones are bothering you, so jsut calm down, plz. and also stop changing your parameters every post...

@ Conqueror: ignore Sherman due to above statement. Also, botters are cheaters, they deserve to be banned. i agree it is a bit harsh to permaban them, but those are the rules and we have to live by them

Originally Posted by Tridius

ok.. *plays teh part of mediator*

@ Sherman: i know your hormones are bothering you, so jsut calm down, plz. and also stop changing your parameters every post...

@ Conqueror: ignore Sherman due to above statement. Also, botters are cheaters, they deserve to be banned. i agree it is a bit harsh to permaban them, but those are the rules and we have to live by them

Calm down?

I am having fun trolling/instigating!

So simple to get Conqueror all in a tither.

[thatperson]

Originally Posted by Tridius

@ Conqueror: ignore Sherman due to above statement. Also, botters are cheaters, they deserve to be banned. i agree it is a bit harsh to permaban them, but those are the rules and we have to live by them

permaban is the punishment for botting in almost every game i have ever played its not harsh its the way it is

I think when sele created his first bot he was confused.

He thought he was creating a butting program. LOL

[Tridius]

yeah TP, im not disagreeing with you... its just i still think its a bit harsh. But that is how it is

I'm sure it's been said by Zenga before but honestly, this is THE easiest game to bot in. Seletchi's bot was made for a keyloggers sake. He didn't care about detectability after he was already banned..

Relic has mentioned twice that Seletchi's bot is a keylogger. Where is your proof Relic? I am, by nature, a curious fellow. So when Relic said this, I decided to download Sel's bot, decompile it, and check for myself. I've gone over 6288 lines of code, and nowhere do I see anything relating to a keylogger. I do see several places where, if I were to write my own bot, I'd certainly improve upon his methods. Lot of inefficient code, lot of places where it could be made more...human-like.

At any rate, I don't bot, and I don't condone cheaters. However, I also don't condone falsehoods such as telling everyone it's a keylogger when it isn't. Security by Obscurity is No Security At All.

LIES!



P.s.

As mentioned before, it appears most people who bot, bot to travel from town to town. Perhaps an alternative can be created for Adventuring experience.

Another comment is about macros. Pasterqb mentioned something about auto-loot macros. SmashBros also mentioned macros as being ok. Really? Because there is no real difference between a macro and a bot. Both provide a shortcut to an end result. Both reduce the clicking and interaction necessary between the player and the game. So I submit if you use a macro, no matter how small, you are botting.

The macros they are referring to are those that allow the use of arrows to move the character instead of the mouse.

Basically, macros that act like hot-keys.