You are picking a fight that you can not win.
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Originally Posted by richp
see told you there is always some noob with the capitalism post and tries to make himself sound smart...
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Playing the Noob card, I see. Is that your best defense.
I wasn't trying to make myself sound smart. I was trying to post a coherent argument in support of my views and to back up my statements with supporting evidence. I will do the same here.
I can't help if I come off as smart. I suppose it comes naturally to me.
If your best defense is the noob card, I suggest that you stop arguing.
After all it is "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." --- Abraham Lincoln
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Originally Posted by richp
you calling ME stupid? oh know you didnt...*snaps fingers*
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lol. Trying to stereotype African American's ?
I was pointing out that, in my opinion, your views are misinformed and incorrect. Intelligent people can have misinformed views too.
But since you brought up the issue of stupidity, I will pose your question right back to you: Are you "stupid?" Do you have trisomy 21? Are you mentally handicapped in any way? Do you lose all train of thought at random time intervals and find yourself awakening from this state of stupor with a sliver of drool hanging from your congenitally malformed chin?
Maybe you are too "stupid" to tell that you are "stupid."
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Originally Posted by richp
listen here little nooblet no one is forcing the reselling POS's to buy up all the cheaper tc's and resell them at higher prices...
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Ahhh Nooblet this time. Is that a noob with an advanced degree in noobiness? You seem to know a lot about noobs. Hey maybe you are one. I don't judge.
You are right; no one is forcing the "reseller" to buy cheap time cards and resell them at higher prices. It is not like someone is holding a gun to his head. It is his conscious choice. What I was arguing in my previous post was that there is nothing wrong with making this choice.
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Originally Posted by richp
wait a second you sureeee do support this Zanthyr fag...maybe you ARE him...what are all your char's names? I'll PM glitch for an IP check...
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lmao
I love this part of your post.
NOD POLICE ALERT --- Officer Rich P has just arrested a "fag reseller" and he has reason to believe that he has found another of this "fag reseller's" accomplices. Investigation is pending.
Grow up man.
PM glitch for an IP check. What the hell is wrong with you? Oh look at me. I am quaking in my boots. Was this supposed to scare me. I could care less if you ignore me. Feel free to do so.
Furthermore, I'd be terribly surprised if Glitchless released information, like IP addresses, to private parties. There is an understanding of confidentiality between the company and the user.
But u iz NOD POLICE and u haz warrant right
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Originally Posted by richp
anyhow I know how economics work I got an A+ in that class.
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Doesn't seem like it. You must have cheated on the test.
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Originally Posted by richp
This is a video game not real life, not everything is exactly the same, you nerd.
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Enlighten me about the differences please.
One definition of an economy is this: an economy is a system of production, distribution and consumption.
Nodiatis has a system of production, distribution and consumption. Thus Nodiatis has an economy. And economics is the study of the economy. Hence, the same principles and tenets apply in both cases [i.e. Nodiatis and real life]
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Originally Posted by richp
Resellers are jerks that care for no one but themself and are looking for cheap and quick ways to make a buck.
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One can not start a new character and become a reseller overnight. Frankly speaking, reselling is not even lucrative: lets say that you buy a timecard for 130k and you resell it for 155k. You make a measly 25k per timecard that is resold in this manner. Plus you have to go through the trouble of getting that initial 130k [for someone who is selling trophies to buy timecards, this can take hours upon hours of rt; there goes your theory of a quick buck]. If reselling was all that it is cracked out to be, there would be no N's.
People like Zanthyr have spent a considerable amount of money on the game. Most of their tc's are not tc's that are being resold; they are tc's that were bought with real money.
Furthermore, once Zanthyr has bought a timecard [with gold or cash] it is his property and he can do with it as he pleases. Am I a jerk if I sit in MY house and watch a movie on MY home cinema system, while my neighbor watches the same movie on his 20 inch tv. It is my tv; it is my house; and in the end it is Zanthyr's tc; and the property owner can do whatever he pleases with his property.
The caring thing is utter bull crap. We are not talking about nurses in a retirement home whose JOB it is to provide care. We are talking about businessmen whose JOB it is to maximize their own profit. If they take their own money and share it with other people, they are being generous. But in the end, it is their money and it is their property and they earned it in a perfectly legal manner; they can do what they want with their own property.
Hate this socialist crap. You must be European.
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Originally Posted by richp
I dont buy tc's at all so I cannot say anything for the lvl 80's that scoop them up from the resellers in ah.
Personally I like to give people good deals on things. I would rather lower my price so a noob can afford something im selling them to buy them all up and triple the price so he has no choice but to buy from me. and it called karma. if you give someone a good deal a good deal will come ur way someday when you need it. If you go around jacking prices of everything up trying to squeeze every dollar u can out of everything then you deserve bad things to happen to you.
not everyone can afford to pay for a lot of the lavish things in nod so they turn to in game gold to buy things. if resellers didnt jack the prices up things would be more affortable for everyone from the low lvl noobs to the lvl 80's. everyone is happy.
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The main reason that prices are so high is very simple:
Level 80 comes along
Sees tc on ah for 150k.
Thinks: no problem I could turn a profit of 400k on this tc.
Buys the tc.
Burns it for rrt.
High level players do not like to admit that they are responsible for this price hike. But it is true, that they are.
Resellers have nothing to do with it. Nothing whatsoever. If no one bought the reseller's tc it wouldn't be worth it to resell at higher rates.
Tc prices go up because, high level players who make uber mega craptons of gold, don't give a second thought to the money they are spending on the timecard.
Timecards are a limited resource. The one who is willing to pay the highest for this limited resource will get the timecard. This is terrible for the low level N; but in an unregulated free market, we are not looking out for the welfare of the low level N.
You can use the US government as an analogy of this system: state and city governments do not engage in or do limited amounts of charity work; it is the federal government that provides programs like social security, medicare, medicaid etc etc.
In Nodiatis, the federal government is Jeff. If he places controls on the market, the prices will go down. But it is not the seller's responsibility to do so. For the tc seller it is just a charitable venture if he does sell his tc for a cheaper price; his goal is to make the most money that he can from his product.
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Originally Posted by richp
There are tons of tc's out there sitting in peoples inventory and storage which could very well be in the ah but they are not due the fear of them getting bought up and resold at a higher price.
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No support to back this up. This could be the biggest lie in the history of mankind or the greatest truth that has ever existed. But without numbers, this is an anecdotal statement that I can't rebut or confirm. So it is pointless. Throw it out.
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Originally Posted by richp
its like a ****ty company that finds out there is a product everyone likes so they go around to every store that sells it and buys all of them up. puts them in his store for twice as much. all the people looking for it at the usual cheap stores its sold out. eventually they get desperate enough they have to go to the ****ty company and pay the stupid high prices for it.
very different then if a good company produces a product and sells it in its own stores....the person re-selling tc's is not purchasing them with IRL money. he is not doing anything to help the nod economy. only making it worse...greedy bastards they are...
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I have heard this argument in different forms before too:
Oh Noez the reseller has a monopoly; oh noez he can set the price as high as he wants.
But this argument is just as stupid as the rest of the arguments that you communists like to use.
According to one source, a monopoly is a market in which there are many buyers but only one seller.
The biggest problem with the Zanthyr-monopoly theory is that anyone can and many do buy timecards for $5. As long as people have this alternate way of buying a timecard, Zanthyr can never have a true monopoly.
So stfu and buy a timecard if you have a problem with the prices. $5 is not that hard to earn and if you are a European, it comes out to like 3 euros per timecard. I could find $5 if I walked around an office building and looked for quarters on the ground for goodness sakes.
Additionally Zanthyr has a limited amount of gold and can only purchase a certain amount of timecards. He is not a gremlin that is sitting behind his computer all day and purchasing every timecard that he finds at a low price. He might purchase some timecards here and there, but I have been able to get timecards as cheap as 145k on the auction house with relative ease. Zanthyr does not even come close to having a monopoly. Believing this is simply ludicrous.
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Originally Posted by richp
and your stupid screen shots dont mean jack. the reseller lowered his price by5k once because someone had a slightly cheaper tc then he did. if Z bought it up then he would of lost gold due to the goblin tax. 5k is not stablizing tc prices. you sorry excuse for support is garbage and its not a widely accepted view because its wrong. and YOU my nerdy friend are Wrong also....
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The Copernican model [that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around] was not widely accepted at one time but it was correct.
Widely accepted says nothing about whether a thing is correct or not.
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I have dismantled your entire post sentence by sentence, line by line and paragraph by paragraph. If you want to argue please stop playing the noob and nerd card, grow a pair and find some evidence to support your claims.
Right now you sound and look like this to me:
