Old 01-07-2010, 05:27 AM   #21
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ouch, babe.. that hurt :/

i was jus comparing the angel and the priest now, and priests blow comparatively speaking
and again, i DONT want a nerf - jus wanna make sure there isnt one coming

lvling an angel would be like lvling a trapper or merchant (or w/e its called now) using a staff :P

i would use 2H crush (lvl 22 epic) till lvl 37 or so and overskill to the 40 staff with black/red DDs. 2H crushers use all the same weaponries as staves xcept u just have to lvl crushing. focus on the supporting role only after i got close to the lvl cap
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:02 AM   #22
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yeah, here is the catch....my white DD gems do more damage then my Red DD gems...and they are the same lvl, and i even have the Inferno skill lvled.
sooooo....yeah.....
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:06 AM   #23
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[QUOTE=Ives;67900]My sentiments exactly.

Everyone told me to reroll when they realised I picked an angel. I was lucky to have met Abel and Twincharge/Kensei very early in the game (below level 10). They were the only ones who didn't mind getting slower exp/trophies/drops just to group with me. Otherwise I would have quit early on.[QUOTE]

and i guess im chopped liver then *sniffles*

p.s. i hate it when the quote thingy wont work for me >.<
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:12 AM   #24
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:52 PM   #25
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No to nerf due to one's selfish ambitions that failed him.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:05 PM   #26
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i swear dont yall get it he claims hes not asking for a nerf...he just wants to save gold while he tries to work the system to make an unstopable alt is that too much to ask? /endsarcasm
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:02 PM   #27
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yeah, here is the catch....my white DD gems do more damage then my Red DD gems...and they are the same lvl, and i even have the Inferno skill lvled.
sooooo....yeah.....
if your red DD gems dont do as much as ur whites.. i dont c y ur complaining angels dont have enuff dps - wizards and warlocks only get a 4-12 and 5-15% boost to their red damage - should be a VERY minimal difference in ur dps vs a warlock's if that is the case

i doubt that whites do more than reds tho.. reds have a higher max end and thats y they cost alot more:

Daggers of the Flame r18: recastable 1-518 for 410 mana with a 17.5% boost from inferno just at lvl 50

Radiant showers r18: recastable 1-425 for 384 nrg with a 15% boost from maxed out 100 ce/cs

there u have it..
more damage with a bigger boost from same lvl red DDs and minimal inferno
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less damage with a smaller boost from same lvl white DDs and maxed ce/cs

however u wanna do it is up to u, tho. i can only tell u whats what and the rest is up to u


and.. correctumundo, thatperson.. all u can ever do in any situation in ANY situation.. is take the best possible route to accomplish what u want. i dont think its too much to ask to not constantly reroll - would u have me not do what i wanna get done in the best possible way i can do it, destruction? or should i go all /wrists like ur 'bro' faith and be satisfied w a less than mediocre char?
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:24 PM   #28
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Do not nerf abilities in PvE, We all help each others.

However, abilities need a HUGE balance on the PvP system, my ability as a magician does 700 damage... i duel an angel and that angel can heal slightly 5times the damage of my ability (3600hp).

Or of you want to control the angels using only red magic and black and 0 white gems ( is just an example since i dueled an angel) theres need to be a control on classes using gems that they dont even have bonuses , my magician have a minimum bonuse 3-9 red gems but that wont make it up on a PvP scenario against an angel ( once again just mentioning this class since i just dueled 1) since my 700s damage ability is nothing against 1second heal of 3600.

Once again, i don't believe in PvE nerfs. but the PvP system at the moment is messed up.

Jeff said something that he was focusing more on the classes that no one pick ( or the less popular) well i find my self seeing the toplist and finding more Angels than Magicians.

My point of view goes only to PvP, and i truly believe that something has to be done in order to keep the fun/fair ambient of it.

Im not that kind of people who reroll to the new strongest class since this is a game that i play to have a good time i like to keep it that way and thats why i quit PvP at the moment... thats only my point of view however, i know angels same as priest or may i say Ex-priest knowing how people play the game... or whip users will say stop complaining or etc. Well im not asking for a nerf like a i said but in a duel a 3600 heal in 1 second will make most likely make me spend all my mana. and then what do i have to do? get mana burst out? ffs is only a 30seconds duel at the most, doesnt seem to be balanced for me.


PD: that angel had only 84s gems and my magician have 93 gems.
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If you're interested - here's the top 1000 count for each class
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Row Labels Count of Level
Adventurer 38
Alcoholic 22
Angel 25
Archer 104
Beastmaster 28
Craftsman 10
Dark Knight 45
Druid 34
Enchanter 9
Guardian 35
Jeweler 2
Magician 11
Necromancer 27
Paladin 61
Priest 11
Ranger 63
Regener 16
Rogue 19
Tactician 6
Trader 8
Trapper 10
Vampire 119
Warlock 32
Warrior 162
Weapon Master 76
Wizard 27
Grand Total 1000
And for levels 75 and up:
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Row Labels Count of Level
Adventurer 9
Alcoholic 7
Angel 4
Archer 28
Beastmaster 3
Craftsman 2
Dark Knight 12
Druid 3
Enchanter 1
Guardian 3
Magician 4
Necromancer 4
Paladin 12
Priest 3
Ranger 16
Regener 4
Rogue 4
Tactician 1
Trapper 2
Vampire 34
Warlock 8
Warrior 43
Weapon Master 20
Wizard 4
Grand Total 231
Level 45 and up:
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Row Labels Count of Level
Adventurer 24
Alcoholic 17
Angel 14
Archer 72
Beastmaster 18
Craftsman 5
Dark Knight 28
Druid 10
Enchanter 5
Guardian 21
Magician 7
Necromancer 14
Paladin 45
Priest 4
Ranger 39
Regener 9
Rogue 11
Tactician 3
Trader 3
Trapper 6
Vampire 76
Warlock 18
Warrior 112
Weapon Master 44
Wizard 14
Grand Total 619

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I say no to nerfing angels,first of all check life magic skills = LAME

and waiting 20 min/10 with accel is still alot for me to wait and then use my ability again

finally something good playin angel and nao ppl wanna nerf it WTF
I think thats the wrong way to think because 1 i know urs is 2 times the length and 2 look at the thing for priests they gem bonus to heals not anything else so in a way its same as angels and 3 i think that because angels get the res ability aswell as the heal them self they are a good pic at lvl 80 for the 93 boss and 95 boss and stuff and i think it would be best to make them heal just as much as priests.

P.S wheres me in helping nerf the priest me and faith both did the ideas and stuff together...
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cassandrahersh this forums is not for advertising and signatures to that kind of site can be banable
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:08 AM   #32
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its called spam jedimaster
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:57 AM   #34
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that would be a type of spam
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