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Old 01-05-2010, 03:56 PM   #1
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Just for ***** and giggles I made this thread, I thought it would be interesting to see what classes are actually underpowered since I only play two classes.

Regener - underpowered. Reasoning: They get up to a 24% boost to base regeneration, great for tanking to a point, but only if you take REC to ridiculous proportions and sacrafice magic, melee and def. So now you're a tank with either low def, magic or melee. It doesn't really work out.

Regenesis - at lvl 80 you heal for 271. This is fairly low to other healers, and other class ability attack numbers. While a 2 minute wait (1 with accell) is a short time, the amount of 271 is eaten well before the recharge, or even the ability itself puts the amount into health.

Include what class or weaponry or ability or whatever is underpowered with a reason.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:14 PM   #2
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Regensis also gives you an equal amount of mana and energy and has the lowest cooldown available for class abilities. You always seem to fail to mention that

My vote is for DoT casters since, unlike regeners, they don't really benefit in damage from any of their stats. Maybe CNC to prevent resists.
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i did mention is was a short wait time actually...

Other classes with this short wait time include, warrior, guardian, warlock, etc..

I wasn't looking for an argument thread lol
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I was referring to the other 2/3's of the skill, the mana and energy.
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there's an idea for regenesis, having the choice for what you regen everything to!

NOW, does anyone feel their class, weaponry is underpowered I wasn't intending to just talk about me here.

I agree DoT is a little lax compared to DD, however there are a ton of DoT only skills, I haven't tested them so i cannot say how well they work.
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DoT casters who use staves are UP but a DoT caster who used a bow can be very useful.....i vote that regener is the most UP combat class.....if ur talking about the bonus in general ....i would say craftsman and traders would be most UP cause their bonus doesnt even deal w/ combat
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What about enchanters, I heard rumblings about this class being behind... not sure i don't play one.
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im not too sure about enchanters....their bonus to grey magic is kinda fail but would be useful for resistance auras but thats bout it....so they would be near bottom of the list imo
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:45 AM   #9
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Avoid more monsters? UH OKAY? How about an uber battle ability like every other class?
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:23 AM   #10
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Avoid more monsters? UH OKAY? How about an uber battle ability like every other class?
Wouldnt that make him a "warrior", and not an "adventurer"?

Srsly, why do non-dps classes gripe when their non-dps class gets a non-dps ability.

Same with regener. That is a class that is meant to be played as a support mage. 2/3rds of their bonus goes towards energy/mana regen, which allows you to use FAR less mana/invig gems, and get higher dps out of your gem bag in longer fights. It would also allow the player to siphon more mana/energy to their teammates in those higher level boss battles. Regeners arent underpowered, they're used incorrectly IMO.

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Old 01-06-2010, 01:22 PM   #11
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I vote piercers before lvl 80 and the archer and warrior ability

maybe force crush to lvl dex to make it even with slashers
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Weapon Masters' class abillity
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paster ur assumption that crush is more powerful because they arent required to level dex is faulty....slash is required to level dex to hit but they hit their maximum damage at a lower strength level crush takes much more str to hit their maximum damage
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paster ur assumption that crush is more powerful because they arent required to level dex is faulty....slash is required to level dex to hit but they hit their maximum damage at a lower strength level crush takes much more str to hit their maximum damage
no reason to go all str either... you miss out on parries


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Old 01-06-2010, 05:56 PM   #15
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paster ur assumption that crush is more powerful because they arent required to level dex is faulty....slash is required to level dex to hit but they hit their maximum damage at a lower strength level crush takes much more str to hit their maximum damage
did Jeff say this? and yea i know it might not be 100% accurate but i normally hit 200-300 in duels when i see crushers hitting for max dmg but might just be my bad luck
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ime crushers have no advantage over slashers just cause of their melee build....have you tried to tweak your build to have more str in it? u may not have it up to where the max is
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my vote is for piercing weapons... and second vote goes for piercing weapons... piercers need a buff bigtime
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pierce doesnt need a buff....thers a lvl 27 in my clan who can kill mobs in skele solo thats +9 for those of you who cant count (which there seems to be many of on these forums) ....i cant even solo a +8 with slashing ....seems to me that pierce is a PvE weapon not PvP so stop complaining about it if you want to be PvP use whips as those are the best PvP weapons
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pierce doesnt need a buff....thers a lvl 27 in my clan who can kill mobs in skele solo thats +9 for those of you who cant count (which there seems to be many of on these forums) ....i cant even solo a +8 with slashing ....seems to me that pierce is a PvE weapon not PvP so stop complaining about it if you want to be PvP use whips as those are the best PvP weapons
killing high mobs is less about weapon (choice) as it is about defense and suiting....
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