Downhill from here

Well found some stats on teh intrawebs and they say that if the pace continues the player base of this game will go down even farther. How about some sort of PvP system where you reward the winners. That would widen the audience of this game.



Sorry its not SUPER!!!!! recent.

[Lurkee]

oh noes wow is failing too, quick pasterqb go make some suggestions on their forums!

(these graphs go up and down as they run advertising campaigns and are wholly innaccurate to begin with due to small sample size)

Originally Posted by Lurkee

oh noes wow is failing too, quick pasterqb go make some suggestions on their forums!

(these graphs go up and down as they run advertising campaigns and are wholly innaccurate to begin with due to small sample size)

ummm i see a steady line unlike the one i posted where it went up cause it started and now it is going down recently. Just wondering if you can read graphs. Also are you an idiot? you see the number on it? over 1million is higher than around 10-20k.

[thatperson]

1/3 of the games life is hardly a small sample ...kinda retarded to say that if you dont realize that the size of the sample is proportional to the ammount of time that the game has been out

Yea like thatperson said Nod last 66% of its individual players. MEANING Jeff lost 66% of his income pretty much. For example (not saying Jeff makes this) Lets say Jeff was makeing 100k a year according to this chart he is now only making 33k a year. And you are shrugging it off like it is no big deal. The average salary in the US right now is like 48k a year i think. So that means if he is making average salary that he lost 32k and is now only making 16k.


All i am saying is a chart without numbers is just a couple of lines that dont mean anything. You fail to read the numbers on both charts.

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by Pasterqb

Yea like thatperson said Nod last 66% of its individual players. MEANING Jeff lost 66% of his income pretty much. For example (not saying Jeff makes this) Lets say Jeff was makeing 100k a year according to this chart he is now only making 33k a year. And you are shrugging it off like it is no big deal. The average salary in the US right now is like 48k a year i think. So that means if he is making average salary that he lost 32k and is now only making 16k.


All i am saying is a chart without numbers is just a couple of lines that dont mean anything. You fail to read the numbers on both charts.

Small thing:

There is a small problem with your analysis. That chart is showing visitor's to the website right? You have to take into account, that a lot of those people did not spend any money to begin with.

It is possible that traffic to the website fell while, the core gamers who spent most of the money continued to visit the website. If that were the case, the company would not lose a lot of money even with lower traffic to their website. Less advertising could mean that fewer new people created accounts on this game; at the same time core gamers could be spending even more money while traffic to the site could be dropping.

I am saying that traffic does not necessarily correlate with the company's profits.

However, I do agree that Nodiatis needs more people. I feel that more people will make the game economy run more smoothly as well. But that is an entirely different issue.

EDIT: and yes I also agree that the decrease in visitors to the website is not a good trend. If anything, more visitors means that more customers who will potentially pay for the game are being attracted to the website. Less traffic is not a good trend by any means. I am just pointing out that the profit --- visitor correlation you are implying might not be true.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

I am saying that traffic does not necessarily correlate with the company's profits.

Yes i see your point and agree but i have seen die hard Nod players who dropped well over 5k quit within those months. And have been polling Shared bliss for some time and noticed it is dwindling. I was just taking averages which isnt guranteed correct or even close to correct at times but if everyone follows the pattern it is correct.

And the graph shows a decrease in players but you can also say that it isnt gaining new players either, which is essential for any game to remain profitable.

[Sexyy]

Crafters Rejoice patch ruined this game totally, lots of people left cause of that

[Lurkee]

The sample size is small meaning the data is extrapolated from a small group of people who are dumb enough to have some toolbar or addon that in addition to providing them some menial functionality is reported every site that visit back to compete.com. since there are not many of these people, the data from these website popularity sites is inherently spikey and not useful for plotting trends.

we can see the amount of people in civil chat, there has never been more than 3 times what their currently is. nodiatis never lost 2/3's of the player base. you're the retard if you're using data off some site when you have the data right there in the game showing you exactly how many people are playing.

you cherry pick one patch that you don't like and show a meaningless graph and pretend that there's a divine correlation. perhaps you should be a politician rather than just a lowly forum troll.

[flipynifty]

Originally Posted by Lurkee

you cherry pick one patch that you don't like and show a meaningless graph and pretend that there's a divine correlation. perhaps you should be a politician rather than just a lowly forum troll.

rofl

rofl cool

[thatperson]

lurkee for the next month i challenge u to prove ur statement ...every time u log leave chat and reenter and log how many people are in chat....the playerbase doesnt seem to be growing that much to me

[Smashbros]

thatperson it may not be growing, but i cant see it getting that much less either.

[launcelot]

when i am on there is usually around 700-1000 people logged online... a lot would be alts but its been fairly constant as early as i can remember.

Paster, the your little "chart" is nothing but a PoS attempt at getting your way.

1. The economy is bad, so people aren't going to pay AS MUCH as they normally would, on Nod. You can claim "oh it's wonderful where I live and nothing is wrong blah blah blah" but it is. Not everyone is privileged and not everyone has a job.

2. The game is still young, and doesn't have that many REAL players, just a crap load of alts.

3. The graph is dated BEFORE the most recent patch.

4. Not EVERYTHING on the internetz is true. (OH NOEZ! IT'S A LIE! I READ IT ON THE INTERNETZ! IT MUST BE TRUE!) Because only professionals, experts, and people of mediocre intelligence post things on the internet.

5. Jeff still has a VERY small team, and is trying to work with as little people as possible. Although, we would like more people, so that updates could become more regular.

And the list goes on and on.

Leave your whining and complaining in your head.

Originally Posted by sherman

1. The economy is bad, so people aren't going to pay AS MUCH as they normally would, on Nod. You can claim "oh it's wonderful where I live and nothing is wrong blah blah blah" but it is. Not everyone is privileged and not everyone has a job.

2. The game is still young, and doesn't have that many REAL players, just a crap load of alts.

3. The graph is dated BEFORE the most recent patch.

4. Not EVERYTHING on the internetz is true. (OH NOEZ! IT'S A LIE! I READ IT ON THE INTERNETZ! IT MUST BE TRUE!) Because only professionals, experts, and people of mediocre intelligence post things on the internet.

5. Jeff still has a VERY small team, and is trying to work with as little people as possible. Although, we would like more people, so that updates could become more regular.

1. Yeah the economy is down whoopdiefreakindoo Doesnt mean they can't spare 20 or so bucks. And if you watch the stock market (i dont think you do cause you live at your moms house) you will see the economy is rising and it is starting to look like a bull market

2. No it isnt young its well over a year old and that isnt young IMO.

3. So you are saying we gained ppl from the latest patch? BULLSH!T and you know it.

4. Correct didnt know i said everything on the internet was true. Hmm i thought i knew everything i said but guess you know what i said more than me.

5. Yes cause he doesnt want to hire people cause that means less profits.

And overall i gain nothing from posting the chart idiot. Tell me what i can gain please. Also how was i complaining? All i did was post a chart saying the game is losing players.

[zoidberginc]

Originally Posted by launcelot

when i am on there is usually around 700-1000 people logged online... a lot would be alts but its been fairly constant as early as i can remember.

Yea ive never seen more than 1000 people online at 1 given time


therefore 10k people visiting the nod site is not realistic, and incorrect from my point of view

[thatperson]

hovers around 900 people whenever im on ...i never said the playerbase was going down i just said it wasnt growing ......thats whats needed for growth (correct me if im wrong but growing...growth....seems to be a relation there) ...jeff wants growth not stability ...yes stability is better than decline but grown is that hes looking for

Originally Posted by Pasterqb

1. Yeah the economy is down whoopdiefreakindoo Doesnt mean they can't spare 20 or so bucks. And if you watch the stock market (i dont think you do cause you live at your moms house) you will see the economy is rising and it is starting to look like a bull market

2. No it isnt young its well over a year old and that isnt young IMO.

3. So you are saying we gained ppl from the latest patch? BULLSH!T and you know it.

4. Correct didnt know i said everything on the internet was true. Hmm i thought i knew everything i said but guess you know what i said more than me.

5. Yes cause he doesnt want to hire people cause that means less profits.

And overall i gain nothing from posting the chart idiot. Tell me what i can gain please. Also how was i complaining? All i did was post a chart saying the game is losing players.

If you have watched the Stock Market before, you would know it fluctuates. There is NO GUARANTEE THAT A FEW DAYS WILL PREDICT THE FUTURE. Also, 20 bucks is equivalent to filling up a gas tank to get to work, which is more important? Which puts food on the table?

Over a year old is the time when things can make or break a game. It is the time when the company's decisions can help better or worsen the game. I.E the critical point in a game's life.

Did I say that? No, I am saying that if you want an ACCURATE measurement of the activities of everyone, get a graph of people visiting before, during, AND AFTER, the patch. Just because your Warrior ability isn't "teh 00b3r" doesn't mean others don't like the game.

Nice smart *** remark. /sarcasm

Less people means a more manageable team and much more efficient, especially in this crucial time for a game.

[thatperson]

654 of the 871 players ONLINE seems that the chat thing is the people online to me