More character slots for paid accounts

Hello,
I found this game yesterday and am really intrigued by it but the fact that you only receive one character per account is (in my eyes at least) ridiculous to say the least.

I will never pay 5$ a month (for a standard account!) for a single char when i can pay 15$ and get around 8 in a big commercial game (well some commercial games are even free of a monthly charge). Not only that but even if i pay I still am restricted by AT. Sorry but that is just nuts to me when compared to the pricing of big name games. AT would be fine if i could just switch to another character in my account.

Anyways of course its the developers decision but I (and I'm positive I'm not the only one) am never going to pay for this if I cannot create multiple characters. At least 5 but I think 8 should be the case.

Of course this is a request by ME for ME... I could just ignore the game. But the developer would probably receive more subscribers if more char slots were introduced.

Well thanks for reading i guess

I completely disagree with you on most points. I shall give you the reasons why below.

Originally Posted by DakaSha

I will never pay 5$ a month (for a standard account!) for a single char when i can pay 15$ and get around 8 in a big commercial game (well some commercial games are even free of a monthly charge).

This is not a big commercial game, it's a browser based game. Most browser based games I know of and played cost around 5-10 dollars a month, usually 30 days. Multiply that by 4, and you get 20-40 dollars. I'd say the 20 or 50 option you get is reasonable.

Originally Posted by DakaSha

Not only that but even if i pay I still am restricted by AT. Sorry but that is just nuts to me when compared to the pricing of big name games.

You get 2 hours for a 20 dollar investment, and 3 hours for a 50 dollar investment. A lot of people don't have time playing more, not to mention having a bit less time, with their busy lives. You can save up some time and play longer when you do have that time available, unlike a lot of games, where this time, usually less than 2 hours or less active, with a lot of waiting in between, is lost completely, without any restitution.

Originally Posted by DakaSha

AT would be fine if i could just switch to another character in my account.

I love the amount of time I have, and I don't want too much extra. I need it all for this one character, and don't want to switch characters. I don't have the extra time anyway if you mean you want 3 hours each character. And besides, the new "rested time" is enough for people that want to play more.

Originally Posted by DakaSha

Anyways of course its the developers decision but I (and I'm positive I'm not the only one) am never going to pay for this if I cannot create multiple characters. At least 5 but I think 8 should be the case.

A lot of people disagree and already have payed for this, and some even for multiple characters. It's not possible to satisfy everybody, and I think the price asked for standard and premium are reasonable.

Originally Posted by DakaSha

Of course this is a request by ME for ME... I could just ignore the game. But the developer would probably receive more subscribers if more char slots were introduced.

Maybe you have a point, but I also think that Jeff knows what he's doing, and weighed out what price he should ask for optimal number of subscribers and a good income. I think it should be worth paying a bit for some changes that significantly impact the game. Remember, we're not talking about just a few minor changes. There might be room to improve some of the perks though.


That being said, I still believe your point has some merit. It might be nice to offer a discount when upgrading multiple characters, but for as far as I am concerned, things are fine the way they are.

I dont really think your points make any sense to tell you the truth. some other browser games cost more and some cost less...waaaaaaay less (like a one time fee of 15 dollars for unlimited access... with 5 char slots in one that comes to mind... and is also very good)

u should compare to the good examples and not the bad ones.

i would basically be paying for 1/(whatever the amount of classes there are) of the game.

of course its jeff desicion but i still think its almost insultingly overpriced.

With all respect, but if you dislike it that much, then don't pay for it. You're not forced to play this, and you're not at all forced to pay for it.

And I do know some games like that. You also have to pay for in game currency for a lot of those games, so you can buy better upgrades. I recall similar discussions about that in many games.

And who are you to decide that any game is better than another for any individual? I think a lot of games that are considered good pretty awful and not entertaining. Whether or not you upgrade is a choice you make, and many will choose to upgrade, and already have. We don't consider the price insulting, apparently.

I'm not telling you to do anything, just giving you an outline of why I disagree, and here you are telling me to compare good and bad games. I think this is a good game, and there's a lot of lousy browser based games out there. My opinion I just gave was reasonable to me and many others will agree. You can have your own opinion, but there's no need to tell me to do my homework, There's no arguing taste.

[Glitchless]

I don't think it's an unreasonable request. The fact that you can only play 1 character at a time from an account limits abuse. It's something I'm going to consider in the future if I can come up with a graceful way to do it, but right now it seems like an onerous task and there are much bigger things on the todo list.

Something to consider though, timecards will be available soon. They will be 4 week standard/premium TRADE-ABLE cards for 5 and 12.50. They'll be mail order only (no exceptions) but obviously some people will buy extra ones to sell them to other players for gold. I'm going to allow free accounts to trade gold or items in return for these timecards so that you could theoretically play Nodiatis for free. This could help out in your situation.

Hmmm.... are you saying that you're considering the possibility of multiple characters on a single account, or also premium possibility for all characters on an account for the current price?

Pre-payed premium cards? That seems like a nice option to buy premium. It'll definitely lower the threshold for many people, if they become available as single units. I, for example, would rather pay per month (or two) then for a four month period.

Originally Posted by Glitchless

I don't think it's an unreasonable request. The fact that you can only play 1 character at a time from an account limits abuse. It's something I'm going to consider in the future if I can come up with a graceful way to do it, but right now it seems like an onerous task and there are much bigger things on the todo list.

Something to consider though, timecards will be available soon. They will be 4 week standard/premium TRADE-ABLE cards for 5 and 12.50. They'll be mail order only (no exceptions) but obviously some people will buy extra ones to sell them to other players for gold. I'm going to allow free accounts to trade gold or items in return for these timecards so that you could theoretically play Nodiatis for free. This could help out in your situation.

thats pretty cool. i understand u not only wanting but also having to make money. and that seems like an option that leaves everybody satisfied... even the people who would like to get out of paying period (as u make the money either way).

it would make crafters feasible for free accounts too as they could build up a crafter with the hopes of attaining such a timecard... then trade/auction stuff until there time runs out... or until they get new cards :P

just a quick thought on multiple characters per account and abuse. couldnt u just make it impossible to either loot or trade between characters of the same account? (of course this would mean actually programming accounts and not just using codes) just something i thought of without much thought. also i dont have enough game experience to really know if its feasible so correct me if its stupid ^^



well now that i know there is hope i think ill use up todays AT :P

you know exarp omega, rarely do i read a post by someone who is so completely self-centered in their viewpoint as the one i read by you. you didn't just miss the boat here, you weren't even on the right coast!

let's examine some of your horribly ill-begotten logic:
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"This is not a big commercial game, it's a browser based game. Most browser based games I know of and played cost around 5-10 dollars a month, usually 30 days. Multiply that by 4, and you get 20-40 dollars. I'd say the 20 or 50 option you get is reasonable."

do you work for G.W. Bush by chance??? First off, we all know this isn't a big commercial game. Duh! and that's part of the problem. with one of them you get (hopefully...) decent graphics for one thing. and very, very, very, very, very, VERY rarely are you limited to just 1 char per account. City of Heroes. WoW. Everquest. Nope- they're all multiple characters per account.
and yet, i notice how you conveniently apply Bush math to this and try to snowball us by saying you multiply by 4.... yadda yadda yadda.
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"You get 2 hours for a 20 dollar investment, and 3 hours for a 50 dollar investment. A lot of people don't have time playing more, not to mention having a bit less time, with their busy lives. You can save up some time and play longer when you do have that time available, unlike a lot of games, where this time, usually less than 2 hours or less active, with a lot of waiting in between, is lost completely, without any restitution."

go ahead and list your "unlike a lot of games". please, i'm begging you. only, when you make that list, why don't you make it of games that actually count towards your point.
are you once again trying to talk about big commercial games? if so then you're so wrong as to warrant me calling you an idiot. but i'm pretty sure this isn't what you're talking about.
so then are you talking about other similar, browser based games? if so, then- yet once again- you're incredibly wrong. first off, you can only "save" 1 days worth of time so it's not nearly as great as you're trying to make it out to be. secondly, 95%+ of the browser games i play allow you to save far more than this game does. so once again we return to you being wrong, wrong, wrong.
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"I love the amount of time I have, and I don't want too much extra. I need it all for this one character, and don't want to switch characters. I don't have the extra time anyway if you mean you want 3 hours each character. And besides, the new "rested time" is enough for people that want to play more."

this is my personal favorite of yours. ROFLMAO!! your own previous post to this you chided Glitchless for "And who are you to decide that any game is better than another for any individual?" and yet here you are telling us that the new rested time is enough for people. oh my! since when did you not only become God that you could decide what is enough for us, but also that hypocrisy is okay as long as it applies to you? LOL!!
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"A lot of people disagree and already have payed for this, and some even for multiple characters. It's not possible to satisfy everybody, and I think the price asked for standard and premium are reasonable."

here's a prime example of your self-centered line of reasoning. because ~YOU~ think the price is reasonable you refuse to acknowledge that it might not be.
the king of sudan might think that paying 1 million dollars for a license plate is reasonable, but does that then make it reasonable for the other bazillion people. going by everything you've posted i guess it does......


as for my personal opinion on the matter, i think limiting a paid account to only 1 char is detrimental. i'm not saying i'm right or wrong, i'm just saying that i know i personally will never pay for an account as long as it's limited like it is. *shrug*