Runes..... really now?

[bloodbaden]

The complaint of this thread is simply: Runes....
1. Why do runes have no resale value?
2. Why can RANK 2 runes be found in a LEVEL 0 area?
3. Read below.


My alt, Bloodrothtwo, has been gathering trophies in the abandoned docks over the course of 0-3 class enhancement, and halfway through level 2 melee. During the time it took and through all the monsters that were killed, to complete both the quests, and gain leaves alike, Bloodrothtwo has acquired TWO runes.

The combined store value of these runes is 500,000g. If I wasn't already a somewhat accomplished player in nodiatis, who has been around the block a few times, I'd think i was FILTHY STINKIN RICH right about now, unfortunately that is not the case.

I do not believe that Jeff wishes to see what I am about to point out here:
A new player comes on nodiatis: this player discovers a rune. Player knows no better, suspects he is rich. Player attempts to advertise selling this rune in exchange for items, but is put down soon by the realization that the rune is WORTHLESS. <-- what you have just witnessed there is what WOULD occur upon the discovery of runes.

I would have reason to believe, if I was that Player, that this game is trying to play cruel jokes on me, in conjunction with the varying lengths of time required to complete both sets of quests. Upon reaching this conclusion, I'd most likely promptly quit the game immediately. This Player goes to another MMORPG, where this event just presented would NOT happen. This Player happens to have a good bit of expendable income and decides to spend sizeable sums of money on this OTHER mmorpg. Nodiatis loses out.

Anyone see anytnhing wrong with this picture? Me personally, I like nodiatis (otherwise I wouldnt play it) and I like where SOME of the things in this game are going. What I DO not like is the way runes are setup. If you agree with me, and/or this scenario, post your opinion on this thread. :E

that's not the case
Ns can't trade, and someone who just joined the game wont pay in the next 5 mins, or 5 hours, more like in the next 2 days, enough time to ask someone else if the rune is worth something or not, if they are that dumb and don't ask anyone. they can quit

[bloodbaden]

as a new player, he might not even know that he cannot trade. so thanks for helping prove my point seletchi. The Player might feel an insult when he finds out that he must pay to trade, so he attempts to acquire a timecard through the selling of the runes perhaps? The player discovers that the value of runes is truly extremely low. Player feels punked, Player leaves...does that work for ya?

God save us all...he's still alive

[Blazinbones]

I agree. Runes as they are now are a messed up system.

Originally Posted by Blazinbones

I agree. Runes as they are now are a messed up system.

I like the way it is

[bloodbaden]

WHAT particularly do you like about runes, seletchi?...

so the way i see this is all those whining want runes to count as thier drop?

thanks but no thanks drops are hard enough to get as is

Give the fricking runes a store value or use my previous suggestion for the runes.

[zenga]

Problem:

- runes drop way too often compared to the amount of clans
- too many crap runes (the 6 mre & co runes for example) out there

Solution:
- make only uncommon rank 3 ones and up drop as loot, those might have actually some value on the AH
- make the lower ones available in store like they are right now for the first tier

Besides that the rune system is awesome except from the dominance/ter required for the higher ones resulting in many fake wars.

I agree with Zenga on this. I'm spending my time destroying almost all runes (save but 5) that I loot.

This shows the inefficiency of the system. Look, clean up the runes, toss those that are undesirable...Stat enhancement runes are pretty much useless unless their requirement is lowered (like how the Rune of Invention requirement was lowered). Lower the chance of drop because there's only so many runes i will destroy in an hour before i start to think that runes are crap.

Overall, runes are fine, but I really think Jeff&co need to rethink the rune requirements and match them to the quality of the rune.

[Hunters Bane]

I agree with Ives and Zenga

*Adds Rep to both Ives and Zenga* Agreed.

agreed. The runes really are a bit messed up +1 for explaining.

+1 Im the new player bloodbaden described... and it is frustrating to think youve hit the jackpot, only to be letdown and cant even sell the damn useless thing for 1 gold

[God Stomper]

Originally Posted by bloodbaden

If I wasn't already a somewhat accomplished player in nodiatis, who has been around the block a few times...

What the hell is "a somewhat accomplished player"? lol

Hes above level 3.

[bloodbaden]

exactly raven. :P

[GoofySmurf]

I remember being sooooo excited... waiting for the runes.. wondering what they will do...yada yada yada

well... haha anticlimactic (SP?) to say the least.
*oo big word.. head pain!*

I agree.. they drop WAY too often, I see most as usless..... if i want more mana or such.. ill make/buy a stone (MUCH cheaper).

[zenga]

Originally Posted by GoofySmurf

I remember being sooooo excited... waiting for the runes.. wondering what they will do...yada yada yada

well... haha anticlimactic (SP?) to say the least.
*oo big word.. head pain!*

I agree.. they drop WAY too often, I see most as usless..... if i want more mana or such.. ill make/buy a stone (MUCH cheaper).

wait ... are you saying that you don't llke runes in general cause they drop way too often?

i agree there are a bunch of crappy runes, but there are a bunch of awesome runes as well. thats why i'm still excited about runes ... i dont care about the crappy ones, i just ignore them. but i do embrace the hit/crit/damage/etc ones. they are awesome and the lowest are accessible to every player in the game

thats why i consider the runes update one of the best ever in the game. i really dont see how one can deny that ... a simple rank 1 rune has the same effect of very expensive epic sleeves/legs ... i mean ...