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Old 08-14-2009, 09:34 AM   #1
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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this has to be the dullest update to date. all that was added was better versions of gems already ingame, nothing new. also was it nessesary to add another increase max DD aura? and why is that the only aura that got updated?
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:58 AM   #3
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nice to have new gems but...

they follow the same mana/energy cost and damage pattern that was already in place for previous gems. feels like no new content because there are no new gem concepts, just copies of the old gems with better numbers

maybe this will make people start a caster character...but i was really hoping for a little innovation with gem ideas, considering how many good ideas are posted.

oh well, i guess simple updates are good to keep simple game simple
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:01 AM   #4
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I have 2 questions: to what extend (%) will the epics do more damage/eat less energy, and what are the odds to find them next to a regular epic find (and if it's pure luck or if its skill/rank/zone based).

Guess the first we will see once a few have been found. The second would be nice to get an answer fro glitchless.

Apart from that i think this is a patch that the game needed. Epic gems can be used by non casters as well. It opens a whole set of new possibilities. I'm thrilled.
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Nice
Old 08-14-2009, 10:07 AM   #5
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Nice Cant wait to get some
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:11 AM   #6
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Quote:
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to what extend (%) will the epics do more damage/eat less energy
roughly 22% better if i did math right.

non-epic white DD: 500E = 720 max damage

epic white DD: 450E = 806 max damage

500/450 = 1.11 (11% cheaper)
806/720 = 1.12 (11% stronger)

22.23% better

edit: i did maths all wrong lol

10% cheaper cost, 8.35% stronger

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Old 08-14-2009, 10:11 AM   #7
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yay

too bad im warrior.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:11 AM   #8
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I apologize to the nodiatis community that i was too enthusiast about this patch. Will never do it again :P
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:13 AM   #9
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woot u got a drop sporky?
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:22 AM   #10
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nope, i checked wiki. they posted all the epic gems there (there's a link in update notes)
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:28 AM   #11
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This should give casters ( and yes zenga every one can use them but casters will benifit the most) a bit of an edge in duels/DM's because you cant inspect their pouch. I can atleast know if the warrior i am about to duel/dm will rock my **** if they have 8 epics and i have 0, however, if a caster has all rare equip they could still rape you if they have a pouch full of epic gems. Would be neat if we could see either the gems they have equiped or a breakdown of color (x number of red/x number of blue/x number of green......) and then a breakdown of rarity (x number of grey, x number of common, x number of rare, x number of epic)
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:36 AM   #12
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Well you can't see equipped runes either. Nor can i see as a crusher if my opponent has the stun aura in his pouch or not. It could influence my decision. Once i've been in combat with someone, i'll have a better idea of what he does and i can adapt my tactics.

I wouldn't mind a breakdown like: x has 9 epic gems in his pouch. But I don't see the benefit either, as you can see the gems in play from your opponent.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:40 AM   #13
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the only real thing i think it could effect would be DM's. would be nice to know if the person your about to DM has epic gems also. but yes not that big a deal.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:49 AM   #14
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Quote:
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nope, i checked wiki. they posted all the epic gems there (there's a link in update notes)
can't find that, the link jeff posted in the update thread contains all regular gems, can't see any epics there unless i miss them

edit: alright, found it, the great decker told me

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Old 08-14-2009, 11:26 AM   #15
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well...there was not much creativity put into this update, for all the hype it was given...but it's definitely a big buff to casters. is it too big though? consider the consequences...

- much higher potential damage for casters for much lower cost. sure, 10~% each way isn't so much at first glance, but it adds up fast

- overall power of a caster's pouch can now be immensely greater. for example: before the patch, a necro would have to have, say, 4 level 16 blacks, 4 level 15 blacks, 4 16 reds, 4 15 reds. now, that same caster can have 8 16 blacks, 8 16 reds. if you've got 50 gems, a majority of which were under the max level a caster could use, or of a different color than the caster's potential casting level, this sudden shift is a major power boost.

one or the other would have been great - for example, a boost to the gems already in the game, or allowing a gem handling buff so staff users could use more of the same type. but this is kind of...overbuffish.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:51 AM   #16
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one thing we are forgetting is the rarity of epics. most players only require one epic of some sort except an arm or leg which require two to complete a set. but with gems more high end caster require 4 to max out. I realize there is not a crap load of caster out there but I wouldnt expect to see someone with a full pouch of epics anytime in the near furture.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:28 PM   #17
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It will be rather exciting to find these gems, to be sure.
Can't wait to see their associated costs -- both store value & market value.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:54 PM   #18
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No Epic Healing Gems?

That is kind of an oversight imo
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #19
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Lol I can't wait to use my blue/red mage with these ^.^
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:04 PM   #20
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@Chrism: He's been saying epic DD/DoT gems would be released. Maybe epic healing gems will be added in the future.
Ditto to RichP. Acquiring 8 epic gems sounds highly unlikely.
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