Old 08-01-2009, 12:21 PM   #21
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I agree with this, but giving the Crafters some more use is not a bad idea.. Just not nearly as much as they did. Maybe a lower % chance of Epic recipe drop?
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:33 PM   #22
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A good buff would be making them stronger pve or more crafting exp, not taking epic drops from everybody. You can't nerf everybody then give a huge buff to crafters on recipes. It gives a huge imbalance to the game. Anybody should understand that
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:56 PM   #23
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.. I knew this would happen one day, mods -.-

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Old 08-01-2009, 01:01 PM   #24
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Sorry, I am done reading others posts, don't really know what was said here except on relics behalf. If you are gonna squelch and ban relic for what he had said then I will say it as well jeff/glichless. These last patches have been garbage and most of the game has agreed with this but you have done nothing about it because you are trying to "buff" crafters. All you are doing is screwing up the balance of gold in the game. Before this patch it was easy to keep epics selling for what they are worth, its cause there is a thing called supply and demand. Seems like you don't understand what this is though so I will explain. Supply= the amount of whatever you are trying to buy or sell. Demand= the amount of people trying to buy the certain item. Crafters now will own the supply. Do you know what this means?? Supply falls to rock bottom and demand skyrockets. This makes it so now lets say a Zombie claw (epic level 28 slasher) that used to sell at around 100,000-150,000 just jumped to 300,000 because there is nobody keeping this in order cause only 1 person will be selling it. Crafters should not own the epic supply. Everybody should have some kind of part in it. Thank you and I expect to be banned for my words like relic was. by all.

Currently zc's are 90k in auction house (87,500 cheapest I've seen).Showing no increase yet.
Even if one item such as zombie claw skyrocketed,it would make sense,since it is an epic,and epics shouldn't be worthless.The rate at which the game was/is going,epics were on the road to becoming worthless.Now they will hopefully be preserved.

I don't know what you mean by "crafters" owning the epic supply.Being one myself,I've made over 2.5 million off 39 epic crafting - with this new patch,I've made about 40k total.Hardly "owning" any economy.

Perhaps when players start getting 67 and 78 recipes,then we'll see some sort of crafter-power being increased,as of now,it's still minimum.

Lastly,I doubt your post will get you banned.Sure you don't know much about supply and demand,and sure you seem angry,but really,your post isn't really ban material in my opinion.Relic's on the other hand...well...Lol
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That's weird.. you reputation bar says you have much to be proud of

Since when o.O?

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Sorry, I am done reading others posts, don't really know what was said here except on relics behalf. If you are gonna squelch and ban relic for what he had said then I will say it as well jeff/glichless. These last patches have been garbage and most of the game has agreed with this but you have done nothing about it because you are trying to "buff" crafters. All you are doing is screwing up the balance of gold in the game. Before this patch it was easy to keep epics selling for what they are worth, its cause there is a thing called supply and demand. Seems like you don't understand what this is though so I will explain. Supply= the amount of whatever you are trying to buy or sell. Demand= the amount of people trying to buy the certain item. Crafters now will own the supply. Do you know what this means?? Supply falls to rock bottom and demand skyrockets. This makes it so now lets say a Zombie claw (epic level 28 slasher) that used to sell at around 100,000-150,000 just jumped to 300,000 because there is nobody keeping this in order cause only 1 person will be selling it. Crafters should not own the epic supply. Everybody should have some kind of part in it. Thank you and I expect to be banned for my words like relic was. by all.


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Your work on economics could use some work, to say the least viper. Watch the economy, the prices, the rates of increase and decrease, the affect of speculation, the affect of updates, spend a few months doing this-enlighten yourself. Also watch the forums to know exactly what gets people banned. After you do all of this, then I would recommend you talking about the economy and the forums.

The crude manner in which you just described the mechanics of "supply and demand" is very naive.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:29 PM   #28
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Since when o.O?
Yeah thats right,someone revived my rep.Whatja gonna do?
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:36 PM   #29
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Yeah thats right,someone revived my rep.Whatja gonna do?
*Holds up fists* come on,brawl!
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:39 PM   #30
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Your work on economics could use some work, to say the least viper. Watch the economy, the prices, the rates of increase and decrease, the affect of speculation, the affect of updates, spend a few months doing this-enlighten yourself. Also watch the forums to know exactly what gets people banned. After you do all of this, then I would recommend you talking about the economy and the forums.

The crude manner in which you just described the mechanics of "supply and demand" is very naive.

Then do me a favor and explain to me what supply and demand is. Lets see if it doesn't match up here
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:41 PM   #31
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Then do me a favor and explain to me what supply and demand is. Lets see if it doesn't match up here
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well, faith can only say lol, what do you have des?? I want your definition of supply and demand
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Your work on economics could use some work, to say the least viper. Watch the economy, the prices, the rates of increase and decrease, the affect of speculation, the affect of updates, spend a few months doing this-enlighten yourself.
I don't have much faith in americans talking about economics anyway
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He's part russian,yeah go russians woo
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:12 PM   #35
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its funny Z should say faith...
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:40 PM   #36
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if insults were bannable offenses, all right, that might be fair. but even then, it's always seen as a sign of weakness if an authority figure silences critics. and besides, half of sherman's post-count is directed towards flaming ***yy, and they're generally far more crude/less creative than the insult referenced here. that's just one example; insults fly around plenty in the civil forums.
Tap just took a shot at me!

lol I already got infractions for insulting ***yy.

Anywho, this thread has gotten off-track and I don't see it as favoritism. I see it as more of a personal choice of the topic going on.

I have seen a whole thread do nothing but flame, but no one gets an offense, but yet one thread with just one post with slight evidence of bashing/flaming and the person gets banned for days.

I think it is more of Glitchless's patience with the players and how far some players take it before it calms down.

Yea, I got banned for 2 days and have a total 5 infraction points for certain things that more than just me should have been punished for, but I am not complaining.

I am just glad that now Glitchless is cleaning up these forums. Reputation on the forums is not seen by a bar or post count, but on the content of the posts and how people perceive that content.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:49 PM   #37
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you bet i did. and thanks for totally ruining the point i was trying to make.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:18 PM   #38
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you bet i did. and thanks for totally ruining the point i was trying to make.
What point was that?

By the way, nice try at trying to get me to flame or whatever.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:36 PM   #39
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What point was that?

By the way, nice try at trying to get me to flame or whatever.
It's ok dude, I'll take care of him.

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What point was that?

By the way, nice try at trying to get me to flame or whatever.
i don't know what the point was! the point is i had a point and you ruined it! *criesforthreehours*
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