Crush Update

Originally Posted by Hunters Bane

He wants more crusher weapons.

An epic 30 something crusher sounds good imo

With the exception of staves, no weapon category improves steadily, there's always jumps at some points that you have to consider. It's supposed to be hard to go for 1H crushers in the beginning. You either have to resort to DW 1H slashers for a while (and early on the lack of Dex doesn't hurt that bad) or using 2H crushers.

End-game is a different matter, but I think Glitchless said that there will be lvl 99 epics or something like that for every kind of weapon.

After 59 there's a great 71 1H crushers btw, klippi. It doesn't have to be epics all along.

[Hunters Bane]

71's have amazing speed

heres a funny fact about the 71 crushers. the way DW strikers are used. They are two bunched together so even if you got a lvl 100 skill of smash, they go for

2(.1) - (.1)(.1) or 19% of stunning
That has an expected outcome of... 1 in 5.26 hits

5.26 hits times the (low delay of the 71 crushers and it is.. a stun every 78.9 delay. And that's with a EXTREMELY small small delay and also 100 DW which nobody has atm..

factoring in those anti daze gems.... smash is just a bad joke


Thats why we need more crushers to at least be on war with its melee rival, slash.
heres another dps thing on the 71 rare crush
Ground Pounder 71 5 63 15

it comes out perfectly to 6.5damage/delay


The 59's do more lmaoz.



edit: Thanks Cc for the support +rep to you

Originally Posted by klippi

heres a funny fact about the 71 crushers. the way DW strikers are used. They are two bunched together so even if you got a lvl 100 skill of smash, they go for

2(.1) - (.1)(.1) or 19% of stunning
That has an expected outcome of... 1 in 5.26 hits

5.26 hits times the (low delay of the 71 crushers and it is.. a stun every 78.9 delay. And that's with a EXTREMELY small small delay and also 100 DW which nobody has atm..

factoring in those anti daze gems.... smash is just a bad joke


Thats why we need more crushers to at least be on war with its melee rival, slash.
heres another dps thing on the 71 rare crush
Ground Pounder 71 5 63 15

it comes out perfectly to 6.5damage/delay


The 59's do more lmaoz.

They sacrifice damage for speed in the attempt at stunning more often.

[Hunters Bane]

Iceberg /pwns Godspeed.




and heres what I was saying about how the 54 crush is almost identical to the 59 crushers.





Its just a bit quicker and has a proc.

Originally Posted by Hunters Bane

Iceberg /pwns Godspeed.




and heres what I was saying about how the 54 crush is almost identical to the 59 crushers.





Its just a bit quicker and has a proc.

lol NICE!


84 is 7.48

86 is 7.63

54 is 4.39... because of higher delay

When u think about CRUSH what do you think about? A big guy holding a huge weapon with TWO HANDS! But whatever also 80 crushers can compete with 81 salshers and slashers suck between 52 - 81

But mostly the 66 68 and 70s suck

also Jeff said faster weapons have lower acc so why do 71 crushers and 77 crushers have INSANELY high acc?

Originally Posted by klippi

lol NICE!


84 is 7.48

86 is 7.63

54 is 4.39... because of higher delay

84 isn't an epic and still somewhat close to the 81.

I actually think about the clan im in. ~~

80 crushers? are you sure?

6.69/del They are right in line behind the other lv 80 crushers. I want an update on crush wep. We are weak arse except for the 59 and 80s+... and even then we get owned by slashers. HAHAHA...

[Hunters Bane]

don't forget with crush if ou have enough str you'll do MORE than the max damage shown on the weapon. I haz a level 8castar tht doez 30+ with a staff only shown to do 26

Originally Posted by Hunters Bane

don't forget with crush if ou have enough str you'll do MORE than the max damage shown on the weapon. I haz a level 8castar tht doez 30+ with a staff only shown to do 26

The reason why i put 1.5 to all the max damages shown on weapons is because thats what the raw maximum is not including class bonuses, crush/slash spec, etc.

your stave's raw maximum is 26(1.5) or 39

get up crush spec and you hit a bit more with the staff

a crit gives another 1.5x boost and overcrit raises that to a maximum of 2x.