Trustworthy Traders

[zenga]

Originally Posted by Ambriel

I try to help out other players as much as I can, but my good intentions are taken advantage of at times. I have listed items in the auction house *eg. a blood claw* and then received a pm from a player begging me to lower my price because they only had "X" amount of gold and they couldn't afford to pay the extra, so I've lowered my price only to see the same person relist several blood claws 2 days later. So in effect, she A) lied to me and B) took advantage of my efforts to help someone out. Will I do it again? yes.. Will she? of course because she thinks she's smarter than everyone else and prays on peoples compassion.

Do I care? not really.. 10 or 15k isn't going to break me, but damn I hate being lied to !! Skanky people like that should be outted. I frikken hate liars!!

Stealing tc's from ppl who are trusting enough to risk being scammed so someone can have a opportunity to gain an item they may not be able to get via any other method is morally wrong (among other things) and they fit right into the category of lying skanks. Praying on people who are inherently good and trusting is WRONG no matter how you slice it.

Capitalism is fine, but negotiating a lower price using underhanded means... NOT FINE.

I am done now

If that person once lied to you, I assume you are done with him/her and will no longer do any business with him/her? At least that's how I think. Should this be known to the community? Yes and no. What you will see is that the person posting is angry/upset and will give a very one sided version of what happened. While the truth is often somewhere in the middle. It will result in endless flame wars that are totally pointless.

I was called a scammer after pkking trainer in the early stage of the game (see the thread 'zenga' by trainer). He was pissed because he lost his account. His friends were pissed because of what he told them. Valid arguments were pointless. Those who bothered asking my version of the story knows that the truth is slightly different. Some people who posted in that thread became good friends. Now I never left my sleep for that, I saw the humor in it and kept playing my own game. My point being: a thread like that is totally pointless as it's nothing but creating a fuzz. It's giving a one side experience /vision and not necessarily the truth.

Originally Posted by zenga

If that person once lied to you, I assume you are done with him/her and will no longer do any business with him/her? At least that's how I think. Should this be known to the community? Yes and no. What you will see is that the person posting is angry/upset and will give a very one sided version of what happened. While the truth is often somewhere in the middle. It will result in endless flame wars that are totally pointless.

I was called a scammer after pkking trainer in the early stage of the game (see the thread 'zenga' by trainer). He was pissed because he lost his account. His friends were pissed because of what he told them. Valid arguments were pointless. Those who bothered asking my version of the story knows that the truth is slightly different. Some people who posted in that thread became good friends. Now I never left my sleep for that, I saw the humor in it and kept playing my own game. My point being: a thread like that is totally pointless as it's nothing but creating a fuzz. It's giving a one side experience /vision and not necessarily the truth.

I completely understand your point Zenga and I agree that having a thread which will inevitably turn nasty benefits no one, even if the intentions behind the thread are honorable. I was really trying to point out that free enterprise is not in question, nor are traders/resellers being called into question. It's the people who take advantage using underhanded tactics that need to be slapped. (metaphorically speaking of course) If I get my price through the AH and someone chooses to resell the item at a higher price, more power to them. I received what I was asking, so what do I care if they sell it for higher. And no... I tend not to do business again with people I feel have misled me for their own gain. I R smart that way Personally I just suck it up and learn from it.

There is always the potential for someone to accuse without giving the entire story, especially if they realize later they could have gotten an item cheaper somewhere else. Some people don't do their homework.. and yes, they even resent an entrepreneurial spirit when it doesn't benefit them.

Capitalism at its finest vs. scamming pieces of crap. Big difference for sure.

I remember when you pkk'd trainer. Ah.. the good old days

in regards to the forums and discussion board comment. yes this is, and the original poster had a good idea and wanted to know what other people thought about it.

I agree with his idea and this game is not perfect as we all can tell there have been improvements and upgrades. Regardless of what the original design has been it can be changed. Look at tradeskills, jeff just raised the limit on the skill lvl. im sure that was never the original intentions.

Yes make a penny for urself (who has a **** load of gold already) and in turn make the other guy pay 3x as much for it. Sure I don’t see anything wrong with that, sounds very heartwarming, and greedy. But hey you’re open to your opinion.

I stand firm on my opinion, people should be banned or temp suspended for dealing dirty. There are a few good hearted people in this game who try to help make a better game experience for those that do not have large monetary resources.