Time Card Suggestion

I am probably not the first one to say this but i would really like it if all the time cards are not soul bound. This would be prime becuse then people like me who are not very trust worthy of the mail system would be able to trade time cards.

Yes, but then, there would be a flood of paypal users buying many (good for game), and flooding the auctions to such a degree that TC gold values would plummet, likely causing issues with the current cash value.

Which would you rather pay: $5.00 / TC or 1000 gold?

Right now, TC's are a rare auction item. Take SB away on paypal TC's, and they will be too common...and may screw up the games economy as well as the Nodiatis Business model...whatever it may be.

[zenga]

paypal tc's are sb to prevent fraude (quite a few topics about that)

What kind of fraud, and whats stopping people from sending in $1000 cash in an envelope to nodiatis and getting like 200 TC's to ruin the economy? Seriously, nothing is. Hell, if I had the money i'd do it.

well what they could is put a certain price on the time cards say like 50k or 40k and thats the mininmum that you can put them on there for. What else you should be able to do is if u want to buy a time card and have it go to some one else say a alt or a friend or somthing you would be able to do that, that would help alot for the transaction thing on credit cards so u dont have to make about 3 or 4 diferent transactions which cost like 2 bucks espcially for me becuse its american and i have canadian $ so i could divi it and give it to my buddy.

[zenga]

Originally Posted by cylias

What kind of fraud,

1. A orders 20 tc's with paypall and sells them to B ingame for x amount of gold. A cancels his paypal order and the TC's from B become worthless while A do has the gold.

2. Using a stolen credit card (widly available on the internet) to order TC's and sell them (not very hard to *laundry* the gold and send it to your main char).

In both cases you can imagine the hassle it will cause. SB tc's prevents that.

I guess we should worry about everyone buying stolen credit card numbers then, because its obviously everyone is a scam artist these days.... Just make it a price on the ah that cant be changed. 50,000k That way they can sell them, but at everyone elses price. Not everyone has credit cards... too young, not enough money or whatever else a reason would be why not to have one so they have to save up gold to get tc's. So they have to spend the time to get a TC. Thats cool because once they get it, they will appreciate it more. Im sure there are other games like this that have figured out a way to not worry about scammers.

[zenga]

You miss the point cylias:
- The owner of the game doesn't want all the trouble that comes with credit card fraud. If you fraud in the current setup the consequences are for yourself, no other persons will be involved, because the TC's bought with a cc are soulbound.
- Your argument that not everybody has a creditcard/paypal is pointless, as there are ways enough to buy TC's without owning a cc.
- The idea behind an auction house is offer/demand. If I have more gold than you have I can overbid you in the long run. And the owner of a rare item will get the gold the market is prepared to pay. You seem to forget that TC's had a market value of 10-20k just a couple of months ago.

Originally Posted by zenga

If I have more gold than you have I can overbid you in the long run. And the owner of a rare item will get the gold the market is prepared to pay. You seem to forget that TC's had a market value of 10-20k just a couple of months ago.

Exactly!! Limiting the availability of auctionable TC's is what guarantees they appreciate. If they allowed non SB TC's from Paypal, TC's in general would depreciate considerably. (IMHO BTW)

I've seen a few good ideas in the other topics about this. Especially the idea of a period of time (2 wks) before you could even list the TC. 2 weeks should be long enough to deter most types fraud.

Ah well. It is how it is. Basically if you want to sell your TC's you have to take the long way around and pay more. I can live with it.

Well, its honestly sorta lame... I dont mind sending in the money, but it just takes longer.

[Hopilus]

http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/re...timecards.html

http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/id...ash-stuff.html

read glitchless's statements. that is why Paypal TC's are soulbound

if some one does fraud another person game adminstators should be able to fix that such as giving gold back to the person or removing virtues they bought and telling the what happend and the person that commitited the fraud card could suffer consiquences.

you fail to see the point. its setup this way so administration doesn't have to do that. building a game is enough work load already.