Staff users to use bows/arrow/quivers

[Sadoul]

i understand if staff user could use ranged items it would cause a big in balance, but here is an idea. What if, if u had a staff equipped and the ranged items equipped the said procs on the ranged items would not work; allowing the staff user to only benefit from the additional stats and hp from tempers that every one else gets to enjoy. This would give staffs a little boost with out breaking the current balance of things

[flipynifty]

My thoughts on staff use.

After however long of trying to make a staff wacker a viable build I have come to the conclusion that the rest of nod does have huge advantages with tempers.
Not a lot of the population that used staves previously use them any longer as there are so many LGs that can turn you into an OP shaft dotter, Double Dot Caster and whatnot without needing to use the staves, but gaining all the tempers and stats from the quiver and bow.

That being said. Staff users wearing quivers and bows and arrows would be REALLY overpowered and I could fully see most of nod switching to a staff build if that was the case.

The staff itself was never really a good viable weapon for use, mainly due to the fact that DD casters were really really OP back 9 10 years ago. The advantages of the increased gem draw speed and MRE PRE bonuses have all been set aside with new gems and LGs.

Maybe instead of having the silliness of making a staff user severely OP, a new staff based skill to bring the staff user ahead of casters as they should be again. Be it something for DPS, or something for the magics...

I dunno... I just wrote way too much

I want a sammich nao..

The End

[Demons]

staff users can have quite a lot less mre then a dc er. they get stats from raidens and ebone if u wanna use that too. also get extra cnc from the tunnel vision effect. u have lots of room for stat moving can easily be regen or heal urself...staff dotters are already some of the most OP pvp'ers (the good one not the brainless ones) staff can be good both pve and pvp. just learn how to use it and balance stats and dps and survivability imo

[Sadoul]

true but the hp is lacking where every thing not using a staff gets 3 more temper items and 2 of those items for stats. to take it a step further could make it so staff can only use un commons or rares that way no proc is avail period, I feel as a staff dot something has to give, if I want def and casting my staff dmg is shot where as dcdot magics was high mre was high and so was def no real stat loss or scrounging for stats needed as shaft archer

[Demons]

whats the average toons hp. cause ive seen staff dots with over 25k hp. why do they need more? and uncommons / rares. so u can spend 300k on a bowset to x8 temper where we spend like 50m on our lg bowsets.

[flipynifty]

put a good staff DoTer against a Good shaft archer or DCDD, the staff DoT might rupture if they cast faster than the Shafter or DcDDer, but they always have more HP. Those builds have huge LG advantages as well as more enchants and HP.

[Demons]

if its a retarded staff dot the shafter will win. i fought many staff dotters as a dc dot. i only beat the stupid ones like hellzing and others i wont name becuase as staff dot. u can play with stats. if ur smart u can regen as staff dot. others can heal. some can do both...be a dc dot trying to beat a staff user healing through ur crap as there dpsing and regening

[Blaze]

if you're staff dot and you lose to dcdd you're doing something wrong. I literally caused a whole rant thread about dds cuz I was offering tcs to any dcdd/staff dd that could beat me back when I was dot. and none did.


dcdot isn't as consistent but you should still win.

[Demons]

honestly people just dont know how to optimize themselfs. staff dot can have heals in pouch or swap to a heal pouch but they think "throws full dots in pouch" i have no defense im dying i need buff! well...maybe if only u could cast heals on urself...if only...or maybe decide that u need to better use ur stats like the top tier dotters do rather then focusin on staff dps with strength or other stuff

[Tsutsu]

Versatility wins nod, nothing is as versatile as a staff caster.

[Huggles]

Step 1. Prove staves are weak.
Step 2. Figure out why staves are weak.
Step 3. Figure out solutions that address the weaknesses found in step 2.
Step 4. Propose your solutions to Glitch/forums (preferably in a format which involves breaks between ideas and sentences).

You've skipped the first two steps.

We've got a bunch of people with one-dimensional builds complaining that their build is weak and they want it improved without having to improve themselves in any other dimension. They just want that single specialisation buffed.

The words which would adequately express my feelings regarding this behaviour would be unsuitable for this section of the forums.

[flipynifty]

one dimensional as in only hitting with a staff, or the healing part, or the dmg shields or the combination...

i think you mean more like you need two soots to say anything

also who said staves were weak?

Its a balance we both were looking at, being even benefit wise. Not about how hard the staff hits... that was simply a suggestion as one way to counter the lacking of HP tempers and enchants