Arena Improvement Suggestions

[Yadocxer]

Been a long time since I've posted to the forum mainly because I have been away nearly two years. So, first a big shout out (hey, Hey) to all my friends here and a smoldering look of disgusts at the few of you I can't stomach. One of or the best improvement I can suggest to improve the playability of Arena is an auto re-queue option. I suggest this improvement because often I find that I have forgotten to re-queue. This new option could work like Travel Mode or Acceleration. Some may argue this new addition would cause problems in 3 Vs 3 premade teams. To over come this in my mind is simply have the team captain (the one that formed the team) have access to this option. My second suggestion is as follows. Once arena match is over the player is returned to whatever zone/town they were in at start of match (which already occurs. The new twist is that they are returned in the suit, with the weapon and gem pouch they had equipped when they were teleported to the Arena. I think these changes would be helpful. Thanks for taking the time to read this post and everyone please chime in with you thoughts. Even you guys that I distaste should share your thought also.

[Blaze]

Auto-requeue would be nice. Side effect is afk queueing. Instead of people forgetting to queue they'll forget to leave. Those will become common unintentional accidents. There are two ways to abuse it though.
1st Some may use it to completely afk farm tokens. For a Bm on say Darklords level how many can he beat while afk? The no rewards for Afk somewhat comats this but as long as you press a hotkey during the fight you get credit. Ltb drinking bird. Yes, Glitch counts the drinking bird toy as botting, but I assume it is harder to detect >.>

2nd arena fixing. "Crap i forgot to turn afk queue off and my friend beat me :/". Unless they're rather obvious they could feed friends throughout the season.

Imo better people forget to queue than forget to unqueue. I'm saying this as someone who always forgets to queue. Was brutal when with Ex and Brickk... 3 people forgetting to queue that many times..

Support gear part though. Imo stupid that if i change suits to adapt in arena I don't get to go back to my PvE suit when done. Especially irritating if the other suit has less hp than PvE suit so you get screwed out of arena heal and by extension rrt if you lack tm.

[Yadocxer]

thanks for chiming in. I agree with a lot of what you said, your concerns. But, I know there must be a happy medium and Glitch should be able to figure it out, thanks again for your opinion.

[NoRemorse]

To overcome auto-requeue and actually proof you are there , you have to click the screen or move ( townwalking, enter fight, see inventory etc) otherwise a decent addition to nod.

Support

[Enduir]

As a notorious forget-to-requeuer and even more notorious click-the-wrong-arena-menu-optioner, I suggest something along the lines of the craft memory.

After your first fight of the day, Nod remembers you have been queuing.

The arena A remains visible when you're not in queue but is red. You click it to activate, it turns green and you enter queue. Click again and you unqueue. Simple idea and the visible red/green makes it much harder to forget to queue and much easier to unqueue. Also makes it harder for me to enter queue instead of leaving it or leave it instead of entering.

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by Enduir

As a notorious forget-to-requeuer and even more notorious click-the-wrong-arena-menu-optioner, I suggest something along the lines of the craft memory.

After your first fight of the day, Nod remembers you have been queuing.

The arena A remains visible when you're not in queue but is red. You click it to activate, it turns green and you enter queue. Click again and you unqueue. Simple idea and the visible red/green makes it much harder to forget to queue and much easier to unqueue. Also makes it harder for me to enter queue instead of leaving it or leave it instead of entering.

that'd be nice

[Yadocxer]

Keep the ideas flowing folks. The more the better. Glitch may even use a few. As Arena improves so does the fun we can have with this game.

[Smooth]

I also think it would be nice for those that switch entire suits during combats to get some type of penalty. I know this is a game but seriously can you make it some what realistic. Can someone in the middle of the ring boxing change all they gear while fighting? I highly doubt that.
Im saying there should be some penaly to those that be using regen suits but when they notice someone using fleshies against them they can hit one button and switch they entire suit. They not getting no delay or anything by doing this. While on the other hand we're getting delays by switching our pets. You need to fix this Glitch!!! Thats my rant for the day

[Yadocxer]

Another suggestion I have is that once you are returned from Arena battle is that you CA be reset. If you use your CA near the end of a match you can't use it as an opener while farming. This shouldn't be a difficult fix and not exploitable. Thanks.

[Yadocxer]

Originally Posted by Smooth

I also think it would be nice for those that switch entire suits during combats to get some type of penalty. I know this is a game but seriously can you make it some what realistic. Can someone in the middle of the ring boxing change all they gear while fighting? I highly doubt that.
Im saying there should be some penaly to those that be using regen suits but when they notice someone using fleshies against them they can hit one button and switch they entire suit. They not getting no delay or anything by doing this. While on the other hand we're getting delays by switching our pets. You need to fix this Glitch!!! Thats my rant for the day

I know some of us think this game should reflect reality more than it does, but I firmly believe Glitch gave multiple suit slots so we could build suits to fit different situations. I really don't see why there should be a penalty for doing what Glitch set-up for us to do, just my opinion. But, thanks for your input.

[Blaze]

@ smooth Weapon delay resets when you change suits :{ idk if the same system for the delay but it is at least a delay. Even gem pouches get a delay when changing. That aside..

The real thing for realism is tmw you parry your own 2 handed weapon. Or when a pet growling stops a magic caster/archer. (I can understand the melee but for a ranged fighter to get scared... Whadda wimp). Or the fact that there is no such thing as a distance factor. How realistic is it that an archer is shooting at you while being close enough to get hit by a sword? Do they even have enough room to aim the bow?

Honestly most RPGs ignore realism for balance. You're just 'boo-hoo I can't use my counter on him.' you're free to use another suit too if they switch to a non Regen suit. 'they have a counter for my setup. Nerf them so I don't have to make a second setup to counter them back'. Adapting is the name of the game. Nod is fair. Anything someone else can do.. you can do. You're a BM so your idea of changing suits is you spend 50m for 2 new pets. Someone else meanwhile has to spend nearly 200m on a full suit. Besides the already existing delay (and stuns for certain gear) why should they get another penalty? Perhaps make it so BMS cannot change pets in arena for fairness. How realistic is it you got 4 pets in your backpack to switch at will? (On a fun note I'd wanna see Peta's reaction to 6+ animals getting stuffed in a backpack ) get good kid. (Before you say you're older than me remember.. Mentality and physically are two separate things. Show me a normal adult who throws poop or makes comments about drop kicking people. The autism is strong in Nod. If everyone acted their ages.. with my youth I wouldn't need to change much others would though.)

[launcelot]

Two things with the autoqueue, if it was just turn the option and go it could deactivate if there was a battle with no user inputs in arena to prevent afk arena.

I also like the visual queue reminder but I would say to have it be red/blue or something more friendly to those of us out here that are color blind.

[Smooth]

Originally Posted by Blaze

@ smooth Weapon delay resets when you change suits :{ idk if the same system for the delay but it is at least a delay. Even gem pouches get a delay when changing. That aside..

The real thing for realism is tmw you parry your own 2 handed weapon. Or when a pet growling stops a magic caster/archer. (I can understand the melee but for a ranged fighter to get scared... Whadda wimp). Or the fact that there is no such thing as a distance factor. How realistic is it that an archer is shooting at you while being close enough to get hit by a sword? Do they even have enough room to aim the bow?

Honestly most RPGs ignore realism for balance. You're just 'boo-hoo I can't use my counter on him.' you're free to use another suit too if they switch to a non Regen suit. 'they have a counter for my setup. Nerf them so I don't have to make a second setup to counter them back'. Adapting is the name of the game. Nod is fair. Anything someone else can do.. you can do. You're a BM so your idea of changing suits is you spend 50m for 2 new pets. Someone else meanwhile has to spend nearly 200m on a full suit. Besides the already existing delay (and stuns for certain gear) why should they get another penalty? Perhaps make it so BMS cannot change pets in arena for fairness. How realistic is it you got 4 pets in your backpack to switch at will? (On a fun note I'd wanna see Peta's reaction to 6+ animals getting stuffed in a backpack ) get good kid. (Before you say you're older than me remember.. Mentality and physically are two separate things. Show me a normal adult who throws poop or makes comments about drop kicking people. The autism is strong in Nod. If everyone acted their ages.. with my youth I wouldn't need to change much others would though.)

Really I care less what you think of me. I don't like you and never has. You go around trying to correct people on how they type on an internet game. Get a life little boy try to do something meaningful to make your parents proud. Also, you know nothing about me mental or physical. Don't go around talking about autism because I have a family member that suffers from it everyday of his life. Yes, its real and not something to make fun of and try to get laughs off a internet game. Just grow up and keep your comments about me to yourself.

[Freakymagic]

Originally Posted by Blaze

(Before you say you're older than me remember.. Mentality and physically are two separate things. Show me a normal adult who throws poop or makes comments about drop kicking people. The autism is strong in Nod. If everyone acted their ages.. with my youth I wouldn't need to change much others would though.)

Your hole "point" is kinda null and void when you start calling people autistic. Rather sad that you (or anyone really) feels the need to talk random crap like that on the internet.

Back on topic, i fully support endys idea to try and help reque. I constantly forget to reque whenever im arenaing.

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by Smooth

Really I care less what you think of me. I don't like you and never has. You go around trying to correct people on how they type on an internet game. Get a life little boy try to do something meaningful to make your parents proud. Also, you know nothing about me mental or physical. Don't go around talking about autism because I have a family member that suffers from it everyday of his life. Yes, its real and not something to make fun of and try to get laughs off a internet game. Just grow up and keep your comments about me to yourself.

Originally Posted by Freakymagic

Your hole "point" is kinda null and void when you start calling people autistic. Rather sad that you (or anyone really) feels the need to talk random crap like that on the internet.

Back on topic, i fully support endys idea to try and help reque. I constantly forget to reque whenever im arenaing.

Meh. Actually I mixed up the diseases it seems. The one I was thinking of is mental retardation. It often happens alongside autism. Meh. Quick Google says ~ 1/100 people have mental retardation and ~1/42 boys/68 girls have autism of some form. (Why this discrimination against women ffs? :P) though the accuracy of those numbers can be questioned.

Regardless. We've all likely got one or more people in our families that have autism or mental retardation. It's fairly common. (I've got 7 aunts/uncles and 17 great aunts/uncles. I don't even want to know how many members my family has qq. As such the family covers majority of diseases. Cancers, autism, retardation, adhd, etc etc.). Actually in the autism case unless it is accompanied by the retardation it could be a compliment. Several of the greatest minds in our history have been autistic. They're a bit odd in some ways but still geniuses. So sorry for insulting autistic people. Rather degrading to be compared to Nodders. Those of you with mentally retarded relatives can complain instead. Idc. There's a difference between calling someone retarded and bullying someone for being retarded. The latter has validation and excuses. You're a douche if you bully them for that. However calling someone retarded.. they don't have an excuse because (in most cases) they don't actually have a retardation.

If one of you Nodders actually do have some form of retardation just pm me and I'll apologize to you. After all. My goal is to insult the idiots. Not gonna insult Forrest Gump for being how he is. In most cases thougg.. start acting like you don't have it and I won't say you do. Though in smooth's case he really may have it.. even if it's you smooth I will apologize if you pm me.

I'm sure some will complain I'm again making light of some disease but.. Idc. I have my taboos I won't touch. But just calling someone retarded (formerly autistic) isn't one of them. I won't insult your kids. I won't insult your parents (maybe the odd your mom joke). I won't insult your religion (though I won't pretend I believe in it either). I won't insult your political choices. (I hate them all equally.) I won't insult your addictions (unless it's daer's gambling addictions). I won't insult your race or country of origin (unless you're Canadian or polish. Sorry Jace). I won't mock you for a disease you actually have. May be a few more but I can't think of them ATM. If I do cross a line or you cross one of mine I recommend a useful feature called ignore. There isn't only one in nod. There is one on forums too. It's fairly decent. I use it a bit.

Btw omg there are many serious issues people need to fix. Stop saying
'Are you blind?' it offends me. I know a blind person.
'This post gave me Cancer' it offends me. Most of the women in my family actually do have breast cancer :{
'Are you deaf' I actually don't know anyone deaf. But it still offends me.
'N words'. I question the gap between it being ok for black people and not ok for white people but w/e. Most of the Nodders who use it are white qq
'He raped me in arena' do you consider the people who went through this?
'He's a certain female bodypart' is it an insult to be a woman?

There are a ton of discriminating remarks made in nod or otherwise. If you use any of these (or similar that I forgot) you've no right to complain about mine. If you use none of them then congratulations. You're one step closer to being a decent respectful human being.

Tl:;Dr: sorry autistic people. I mixed you up with mentally retarded people.

[Yadocxer]

After that short intermission because someone may or may not have gotten offended or their feelings hurt, this is the freaking Internet after all and hurt feeling and asinine behavior comes along with the territory lets please get back to the topic at hand "suggestions to improve Arena." Thanks.

[Brick]

C'mon boys, this is a srs thread, can we not have another online brawl over who's more of a genius, or dislikes the other with a stronger passion.

Regarding the re-queueing feature, I really liked the idea that Tip proposed:

Originally Posted by Tip

Currently when an arena match is over, we are just returned to last location all healed.

There could be a step added after a match akin to a looting step. All other combats - mobs, duels, cb's, etc - have a looting stage. In this instance it would work in much the same fashion except finding the chest (or now a medal?) would put you back in queue. Simply hitting the exit button (please offset this to diff spot due to our awesome ability of muscle memory/'ooh a button *pokes*) will not re-Queue you. The original way of queuing can stay in place unchanged for when this 'looting' phase has been exited or timed out.

Appears to solve both the frustrating issue of forgetting to requeue, whilst not letting those darned botters abuse the system.

@Smooth, personally not a big fan of penalising those who switch sets during combat, it limits creativity and adaptability in arena, and would likely have the inevitable result of making BMs the undisputed, numero uno. I'm sure such a change would appease Hock, who seems to cry about this daily; but I get the feeling PvP would become even more dry and one-dimensional than it already is as a consequence. Considering you're usually forced to invest 2+months for a season to be competitive, a lack of diversity is not really ideal imo.

If I have any genius ideas, I'll be sure to post them here.

[FattyNoob]

Auto re-que is cool.

Penalty for changing gears comparing it to irl, well irl I will know who I'm facing and can prepare before hand. We aren't all BM's who can rule the world with just 1 suit.

Why do I need to lose 28 points when all the other person gains is 12? That really makes no sense, at least give them the 28.

[neco]

Perhaps at end of arena fight a pop up to say Re-enter Arena Yes/No ?

[Brookeland]

An auto Q option (with -coloured lights if u like)with a prompt of "enter arena now" and say a 3-5 second count down. if not pressed you are still Q'd but need to wait for next prompt, which would REALLY help if you have a fist full of fish or rodents etc