Baffled, and dismayed

Andressan · 03-13-2016, 01:28 AM

It has come to my attention that Hustlerking has been toon shared by redeye at least. I do not know how well redeye plays HK, however I honestly do not think he does as well as HK would. Normally I wouldn't really care, however the very last match for Darklords was against HK apparently at the hands of red and was a loss. I do not assume to know that HK playing his own toon would have guaranteed a victory, however I do know for a fact that HK has beaten DL quite often at HK's own hands. Normally this wouldn't even bother me, however I literally broke the barrier above DL's rating for a 3rd place finish this season which means that the last loss of HK/redeye secured 3rd place for DL and I have lost out on a new LG master plan. Honestly I am content with 4th and it's prizes, but I am now all the more bitter about toon sharing in general. I frankly feel a bit cheated because of the above reasons.

Thank you for your time.

Darklords · 03-13-2016, 01:36 AM

Great point for in highlighting toon sharing while in arena. i also would like to say i am also annoyed with toon shares using toon in pvp for gains. that arnt there's.

however me and hustlerking like most other dotters trade wins back and forth depending on gem draws and the such. hustlerking has only managed to win vs me today. out of the overall arena season. there for im not even shocked that i beat him as i have done so many times before hand. but as most dotters can say. fights vs them are random as hell. they can swing one way or the other...

i also would like to add that if you have a problem with the mechanics of arena and want half your own clan banned for toon sharing while in pvp feel free. please dont drag me into it.

thanks...

StormGuardian · 03-13-2016, 01:37 AM

As far as the end of arena goes, your 2nd to last fight, minutes before Darklords, was against the same Red playing HK, so I think the outcome of arena itself wouldnt have changed.

That being said, toon sharing has always been a problem. IF it had been outlawed from the start, many things in nod would be different now, and players would not all be in the same gear and have the same wealth, etc etc. But it's not gonna change sadly. Having more people against it is good though, maybe fewer people will toon-share in the future...but I doubt it.

FattyNoob · 03-13-2016, 02:18 AM

Please consider removing characters with multiple ip addresses in 1 account from the reward system. If this accusation is true, nemesiss shouldn't be robbed of his rank 9 just because he chose to follow the rules and not toon share. Among many others down the ladder. When some people fight hard just to reach rank 150 and people come along using old retired toons just to be greedy and manipulate the system, likely demoralizes some of the player base.

Nemesiss · 03-13-2016, 02:28 AM

huh? if a old retired toon can legitimatly beat me then by all means they can take my place, i didnt q really at all last day or much before it due to real life so my placement is well and fine, do appreciate you lookin out but i personally dont care

Blaze · 03-13-2016, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FattyNoob

Please consider removing characters with multiple ip addresses in 1 account from the reward system. If this accusation is true, nemesiss shouldn't be robbed of his rank 9 just because he chose to follow the rules and not toon share. Among many others down the ladder. When some people fight hard just to reach rank 150 and people come along using old retired toons just to be greedy and manipulate the system, likely demoralizes some of the player base.

:{ so everyone who plays at work/home shouldn't be eligible if we got by multiple IPs period. If we go by IPs far apart there is rayaxe who moved from Europe to murica. Can't really prove someone isn't out of town or something. Some nodders play at libraries sometimes or at college campus. And there are nodders who are real life friends. Whose to say whether my friend a mile away logged me or if that's where I work?

Too many flaws with your suggestion.

Blaze · 03-13-2016, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Andressan

It has come to my attention that Hustlerking has been toon shared by redeye at least. I do not know how well redeye plays HK, however I honestly do not think he does as well as HK would. Normally I wouldn't really care, however the very last match for Darklords was against HK apparently at the hands of red and was a loss. I do not assume to know that HK playing his own toon would have guaranteed a victory, however I do know for a fact that HK has beaten DL quite often at HK's own hands. Normally this wouldn't even bother me, however I literally broke the barrier above DL's rating for a 3rd place finish this season which means that the last loss of HK/redeye secured 3rd place for DL and I have lost out on a new LG master plan. Honestly I am content with 4th and it's prizes, but I am now all the more bitter about toon sharing in general. I frankly feel a bit cheated because of the above reasons.

Thank you for your time.

Second post since I forgot to mention..(and copy/paste sux on phone to edit)

I notice the fight right before hk lost to DL was him losing to you andre. Now i'm not saying real hk would have for 100% won or lost vs you but since it was Redeye I think this match shouldn't be valid either. Then..omg you both lose 1 win's worth of rating and are balanced...no?

xshadowedxx · 03-13-2016, 02:49 AM

not to mention some ISP's decide to randomly switch your ip around

SiSiX · 03-13-2016, 04:08 AM

Meh, just make the final day of arena personal combat with dull Nerf balls at three feet. (To the death ofc). Winner takes all.

I realize some of you might not be able to travel to the undisclosed location where this takes place, but really, you think Glitchless can be held responsible for your lack of ability to get a job that pays you millions and let's you get a week off at the drop of a hat? I mean, REALLY, how bad do you want to win?

Andressan · 03-13-2016, 04:14 AM

It's not really one thing, but the whole trouble with toon sharing that bothers me. Who knows what the leaderboard would've looked like if it was filled only with people who don't toon share, but it just bothered me a lot that this issue may have cost me a tier rank. I also heard but haven't verified that matches were thrown. The fight between me and hk prior he had about 1.5k or so disease ticks on me and didn't rupture it in time. Idk how the fight between hk and dl went, but as soon as the season ended both hk and red were nowhere to be found. I had no idea about the sharing till afterwards when someone pmed me and told me that was the case. Like I said though, I'm happy with 4th and the prizes that go with it, but this situation unnerves me about toon sharing in general. If a tier rank can be effected by a breach of the rules....how often does that happen that we don't know about? In general though, I'm not a fan of toon sharing to try to get ahead, or keep things going while you're away etc; it just seems dishonest to me and like getting what you didn't work for and then taking credit for it later.

Bottom line: as we've seen in lots of other situations, toon sharing is the cause of a lot of drama at least, and downright unsportsmanlike as far as I'm concerned. It isn't fair to me that people share toons to artificially advance instead of getting what they deserve because they've earned it, and that is the crux of what bothered me tonight. Yes Blaze there are legit times when the "dark side" of toon sharing simply don't apply like the harmless transfer of IP addresses via logging in from a different location or computer, or gifting a character to say your best friend or relative. Imo there's nothing wrong with that, but people abuse it and take advantage of Glitch's leniency to get ahead and get rich quick or w/e else, and yes that does bother me a great deal.

Pale · 03-13-2016, 10:29 AM

I believe extreme account sharing effected the outcome on both server. There are different types of account sharing.

Extreme Account Sharing to manipulate the Q is one of the most damaging types of account sharing. The effects of this banned practice are even more damaging on s2 because of the small player base.

Glitch, please fix this.

Akilthedestroyer · 03-13-2016, 10:38 AM

Suck it up buttercup (Pale)

Redeye · 03-13-2016, 11:24 AM

Look.. 1st of all toon sharing is this whole entire game. I can give a list of ppl toon sharing the hell out of each other. Now second. hk is a great friend of mine, we facetime and all. I do realize why you may be upset about it but whether it was hk or me who played, both woudnt have made a difference. Now i do confess to toon sharing BUT it does also keep the game going. Toon sharing is what prevents the game from going dead and i can also confirm that HK did arena yes but he does it like 10% of the time when i wasnt even playing him at all and that was for like the 1st month of arena. The rush week it was all me playing him. Yes hk did log to farm and all but i did stay up for 14 hrs on the last day putting my butt on the line playing because how addicting it is and i really wanted the top spot. Its not like we do arena 50/50 so we can play 24/7. Hk has a life as well as i do and if he cant play who will. Same goes with all the other ppl who quit and either let their friends play for them or just sit them til they come back. Andre i apologies if this affected your game even though u beat me like 9/10 times but sometimes you do have to suck it up. Nomicon beat you and you complained and pm'd him all these complains. Dude everyone loses even our champion. No one if a perfect gamer here. Concluding this i LOVE nodiatis a lot and i hope this game doesnt die out soon because a lot of good friends play. I am still willing to pay a lot of $$$ for the game. Andre just please no whining every damn time you lose a game because EVERYONE LOSES! Thank you and enjoy your tempers everyone

Fior · 03-13-2016, 11:56 AM

Now sharing account is called sittering huh ?
For remember - Pedro team was banned for sharing/sittering account for arena.

To be fair... all sittering accounts must be banned.
Is that correct to banned just some accounts and other not ?

Redeye · 03-13-2016, 12:00 PM

Also another thing to add to toon sharing. Life is precious and you should never waste it right? well say you have an OP toon and want to take a break or even quit. Is it bad if he gives it to a friend? His kid? Or maybe even someone he doesnt know. In 20 yrs no one will no what happens and we want to keep the game going as long as possible. Nod is a small community where its hard to recruit new player. Its not like WOW where you find a new person everyday or Clash of clans. Nod is small and toons shouldnt just rot. So what you make more gold and tcs off them. BIG DEAL right? Well toon sharing is only bad when you use it to play vs 2+ ppl 24/7 to que but that wasnt the case. I was busy the past couple days before rush thats why hk also lost lots of rating from decay. If you see hk playing everyday of the week playing every minute thats a problem.. and i mean for arena ques. Point is nod is a small community and just because some of you may not share with toons does't mean you have to go against it. Some of your clan's RP comes from ppl toon sharing and making your IP. Clan loony has a bunch of toon sharers as well (not calling any names) and because of that, their rp is incredible. Not because 50 people are playing 50 toons or 40 if you disclude everyone's alt. Anyways please me subtle about this and just let it happen. If i was the most OP toon then there should be complaints but red is just a descent toon trying to get better. Andre you are so damn OP there shouldnt be complains (considering i was gonna ask you to join the arena team).

Anyways again have fun farming guys i really love all of you here and i just hope for the best and to help as much people out.

Redeye · 03-13-2016, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fior

Now sharing account is called sittering huh ?
For remember - Pedro team was banned for sharing/sittering account for arena.

To be fair... all sittering accounts must be banned.
Is that correct to banned just some accounts and other not ?

Fior They probably played 24/7 then. That isn't the case with me as for i'm the one who did all the work.

Blaze · 03-13-2016, 12:22 PM

Before I read this I just wish to say...Redeye learn2paragraph. Such large blocks of text are intimidating..

:{ vast majority of nod toonshared prolly upwards of 75%. There are some exceptions like brother but nearly everyone has toonshared.

Even Andre. After all...how did he lose tealc and need to reclaim via email when he's original creator if he never gave anyone his password or anything.

And loony's rp is totes OP cuz of shad the OP bastid

Redeye · 03-13-2016, 12:40 PM

this game is the only thing keeping me from thinking about all the family problems and everything thats going on in my life. I can socialize whenever i want and meet really cool ppl here.

Glitchless · 03-13-2016, 12:50 PM

People don't get banned for toon sharing, they get banned for toon sharing and then whining to us to help them when there are disputes over who owns what.

The people Fior are referring to getting banned in the past were throwing arena matches in order to use excess rating to help friends. That is highly against the rules, but it doesn't sound like that happened here. Nobody is getting banned.