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02-19-2016, 03:06 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Pet Prevents
I liked the lower level epic pets and their prevents-----How about a essence to gather that can add this feature on LG pets. Lets make it 12%(or higher) on SB pets, because all other essences are at 100 make it 100 gathered will add 1%. When unSB all prevent % are removed. OK guys run with it.
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02-19-2016, 03:16 PM
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isn't it already hard enough for casters to kill BMs when getting constantly stunned?
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02-19-2016, 03:18 PM
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Auction Master
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im always down for anything that hurts caster and for dot its prob needed. however there is already a pet that has a prevent chance proc, being able to add a hefty prevent chance with a timmy or stalker would be pretty op and probly put dd even lower on the scale then melee. cant have both, is a choice/trade off we all gotta make.
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02-19-2016, 03:39 PM
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Must be hard for them against BM's I don't know not running one in arena, EX. is still rerolling, have you beaten Paulo. or Ales. and Mastera.. If you think 12% is to high then match the cuddle bug and exclude it from the esse.
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02-19-2016, 04:21 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
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If you want prevent % use cuddlebugs. What your asking for is to be able to combine any lg pet with a T3 bug........seems like it would be extremely broken imo. As well casters are already able to be countered, just build to do it.
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02-19-2016, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by blackpanther
Must be hard for them against BM's I don't know not running one in arena, EX. is still rerolling, have you beaten Paulo. or Ales. and Mastera.. If you think 12% is to high then match the cuddle bug and exclude it from the esse.
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If every pet could get equal % of resist to cuddles...is there literally ANY reason to use cuddlebugs? Sure shatter is nice but you're taking away the original feature. Shatter isn't good enough when you could get other bonuses.
Like you said ex is still rerolling. He has level 0 affin and other such skills it'd be a little alarming if in under a month with some crucial skills at 0 he was beating masterarcher who has 98% wins. Last I knew paulodjohn was on pilgrim so like a win vs him counts either way since it's two gimped toons. Comes down to if pilg hurt more than reroll. And alastrina never finished fixing stats from team arena so he prolly can beat her.
Use moar prevent gems or buy cuddlebugs and give up your vamp. We can't have it all.
Reason only ex uses bugs is cuz rather than survivability most use prevent gems for that and use flesheaters to kill by going through miti and making regeners pay.
Ex is just a poor nub that can't afford them yet
People whine too much..casters made that prevent gems OP pls nerf thread..this thread saying casters too OP...everyone needs to understand 1 build shouldn't be able to beat every single enemy. That's why a lot of top pvpers spend millions to get multiple suits.
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02-19-2016, 08:22 PM
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Errr I can't really beat any decent dotter atm but I can see cuddles potentially doing so. I had fairly close fights with some dotters, so if I had some cnt and skills I could prob do it. But yeah, I'm not very supportive of this thread since that'd make cuddles... well not useless but certainly not the best option for anything.
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02-19-2016, 10:10 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Who said you would get the 10-12% prevent tomorrow, it's something to work for. The lowest of one gem line is 21% and the other line is 42%. When you first face a Dotter, DD caster or the combo archer they are already set to land 2-3 casts on you and the rest of us are unprepared for. This way while building your modded pet you'll have some other way to resist some of their casts of daze, mez, and stuns along with the rest of their barrage of gems while they deplete your mana or energy. I'm not your average toon King.
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02-19-2016, 11:04 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Half the people in nod probably got we'll say an average of 3 caps. There are exceptions but massive ones make up for singles. If it's about as hard as hero ess to gather how long do you really think it'd take some people to get the full %? And even if it takes say a year. That still makes every lg pet in the game equal to a t1-3 cuddlebug.
Yes you're OP for melee with t3-4 gear. But that doesn't mean you should be invincible.
3 casts. There's a thing called cnt + resist aura that does wonders vs that. Even if they shatter it'll last those 3 casts. Devil is a good example (albeit he has Archer bonus to cnt)
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02-20-2016, 12:03 AM
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Support, so long as essences are also available to give pets a proc that prevents melee hits. Or maybe a gemline or three that prevents/mirrors melee hits with virtually no manergy cost and which don't incur global cooldown and don't rely on any stats to proc. They would be blue gems mostly so they can be defted much faster than any melee toon can swing, obviously. Only fair, right?
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02-20-2016, 04:20 AM
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I mean I understand you are not irrational enough to ask for it to be easy. But yeah still not supportive of this since already as is, you can shut down casters easily enough. Especially in team arena, there's no need to go too far
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ill admit ex is a real toon though... >_> god i'll never hear the end of my saying that
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02-24-2016, 04:14 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Totally agree with the idea of being able to prevent Dots, dont know how to implement it though, having 1k cnt is possible but not practical.
So i agree with the idea whether it be pets weapons whips or staffs,
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02-24-2016, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brookeland
Totally agree with the idea of being able to prevent Dots, dont know how to implement it though, having 1k cnt is possible but not practical.
So i agree with the idea whether it be pets weapons whips or staffs,
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Come on, DoTs can already be completely shut down with a bit of effort to do so, other things in game seem to cause a lot more problems lately than DoTs do. In team arena, healer and decent tank killa a DoTer, in single arena prevent gems can significantly increase your odds of killing DoTer (not to mention archer with cnt), so this story of DoTs being zomgopunbeatable is kind of getting old
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ill admit ex is a real toon though... >_> god i'll never hear the end of my saying that
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02-24-2016, 09:10 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
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If you want prevent % use cuddle bugs. People already swap pets to vamp when facing certain degen archers/fleshies why not swap pets for doters to?. In 1v1 casters are easy to shut down, in team a decent tank/healer combo shut them down as well. If what your doing doesn't work try something new because others have success at beating doters.
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02-24-2016, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikolaaa
Come on, DoTs can already be completely shut down with a bit of effort to do so, other things in game seem to cause a lot more problems lately than DoTs do. In team arena, healer and decent tank killa a DoTer, in single arena prevent gems can significantly increase your odds of killing DoTer (not to mention archer with cnt), so this story of DoTs being zomgopunbeatable is kind of getting old
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Originally Posted by Freakymagic
If you want prevent % use cuddle bugs. People already swap pets to vamp when facing certain degen archers/fleshies why not swap pets for doters to?. In 1v1 casters are easy to shut down, in team a decent tank/healer combo shut them down as well. If what your doing doesn't work try something new because others have success at beating doters.
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anything i say will just be repetitive. ^
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02-24-2016, 11:47 PM
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Totally disagree... This would kill all forms of caster... :s
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02-26-2016, 12:19 PM
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Instead of an extra 'do no damage' proc, which the sheer number of items that give this proc are a little ridiculous, why not just a proc of 'up to 12% of DD damage resisted, based on CNT' and then a separate one for DOTs, this would stack with the color negation auras.
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03-09-2016, 12:17 PM
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Boss Hunter
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Bump just to P people off
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03-11-2016, 08:20 AM
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You were on the right track Blackpanther, but what you meant was ....
I think the current prevent pets should change their proc to "have a X% chance of preventing any detrimental gem, melee or ranged attack used against you"
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03-11-2016, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by paulodjohn
You were on the right track Blackpanther, but what you meant was ....
I think the current prevent pets should change their proc to "have a X% chance of preventing any detrimental gem, melee or ranged attack used against you"
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Sarcasm is strong in this one
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ill admit ex is a real toon though... >_> god i'll never hear the end of my saying that
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