gem shatter arena
Old 02-18-2015, 08:28 PM   #1
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arena timer went from 10 minutes down to 5 mins. my gem shatter timer has not changes. effectively i can only shatter half the gems i use to be able to in arena matches. would like to have this corrected please .thank you in advance.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:08 PM   #2
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Nothing was changed with gem shattering. Post your gem shattering skill and we'll be able to determine if your shatter delay is correct since it is the only thing that affects it.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:55 PM   #3
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he means that in a 10 minute match you could do 5 shatters while in a 5min match you can only do 2. He wants to have 1 min shatter in order to have the same 5 potential shatters in a fight.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:11 PM   #4
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Hmm. I don't think there's really any justification for that. People are also drawing and using half the amount of gems as before, so there's no reason you should be shattering any more.
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:04 AM   #5
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But the damage is boosting up sooner and quicker therefore the gems are doing more damage faster it would only seem fair what defenses we had should also ie. gem shatter should be adjusted to match.
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Old 02-20-2015, 12:10 PM   #6
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Please make it so it's work on people that don't use gems or don't rely on them. It should be icon of auto attack you can shatter instead gem. It would result in failing of next attack or freeze pets for 1 attack. Why everyone should have their opening shoot guaranteed (usually most powerful) except casters? Make it fair for all
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Old 02-20-2015, 12:29 PM   #7
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Just because an ability doesn't work against some particular builds doesn't mean it's unfair. If everything worked against everyone, the game would be quite plain and boring. And the same argument could be made by someone who is upset that the portion of gravebound that limits HP regen has no real effect vs. a non-regener caster and that they want it to reduce their mana/energy regen in order for it to be "fair".
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:37 PM   #8
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What im trying to say - caters like me starts with cool down delay as first gem is showed and everyone know it's a caster. Not only i have it shattered to make my attack delayed but everyone knows it's me and focus on me. In other words I have to take 3 opening shoots before I'm able to attack at all.its not anonymous at first place. But if you believe it's 100 % fair I guess that's the way it should be. After all i need to play by rules. I might go naked into arena to just make it quicker and farm % or go melee so no one knows who I am right away. I believe gem shatter was all about removing auras not attack. A small compromise would be that you cannot shatter dd gem in first slot till it get used or replaced. This way everyone has their chance to attack once.
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Old 02-20-2015, 02:31 PM   #9
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Or maybe we should make it so you can't see gems/effects until arena starts.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:58 PM   #10
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Or maybe we should make it so you can't see gems/effects until arena starts.
That would be even more amusing and random, but probably not awesome.
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Or maybe we should make it so you can't see gems/effects until arena starts.
This would make arena even more unbearable.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Or maybe we should make it so you can't see gems/effects until arena starts.
Honestly it would make it anonymous and fair for all. Please do it.
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Old 02-21-2015, 12:52 AM   #13
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why your complaining about people wasting their shatter on your first gem that you will most likely instantly have another of (in some form/color) is beyond me. means one less shatter to deal with to save a more important gem such as stoic or sacri at start or later. even if people don't know your a caster to start with the second the game starts people are gonna know right away and attack you anyway. for instance when i pay attention i don't attack the second it starts, i wait to see if the person i'm attacking is using a shield so i don't waste my shot on testudo. yeh its obvious when your a caster cause first slot but same concept for this idea. which also kinda makes this patch pointless as most others would start this. another thing, casters technically get 2 opening attacks, whether you utilize both is up to you and not a game fault.

but if patch happens or not is fine. the only times the start of the fight even matters is for when your paired with low lvl or weak team mates that insta die, which probly wont be a win anyway less the opposition is weaker or is in same boat, which i assume and hope happens to everybody 80% of the time and not just me
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