Less rating/tokens for dead people

[Excellence]

So, let's say you get into fight, and as soon as fight starts your teammates die, and you somehow manage to win that fight 3vs1.

Is it really fair they get same amount of tokens/rating as you do considering you did everything?

So I suggest (well actually Thorins idea) that dead members of winning team get 1/4th of rating and tokens or something like that

[hotshot64]

No offense, but that's a stupid suggestion. Those dead players who died instantly just took 20k damage that could have been directed at you, enabling you to continue fighting and win the match. Let them have their rating.

[Excellence]

That is even more stupid thinking considering I get aimed at openings often myself.. But like many others who bother, I can survive it, and it's often unlikely that all 3 members will go for same person, I'm simply saying this since people I get often in arena just die.. every single time they just die and it's me against others. I'm aware as much as it happens to me it happens to others but it's stupid that same people carry others over and over. Just look through top 100 and it's full of people that got carried

[StormGuardian]

So basically, you want a random arena of the top 50 players. Get over yourself, please.

Just because some toons aren't as strong, don't have as much time, or haven't spent as much time playing as others of us, does not mean they should suffer in arena for it. This is a new type of arena, that *somehow* has to be at least semi-fair to all. Every "OP" toon will have some crappy allies at times, just like sometimes you will have a dominant team of 3 "OPs." For once just enjoy the chaos, or just stop arena-ing.

Seriously, all people do is complain when something doesn't go their way. Welcome to the real world, it doesn't revolve around you.

[hotshot64]

Ex, you're wearing full legendairies with Timmies and some mit gear, and moderately high regen. You're far more likely to survive an opener than the average person, not to mention that you're a healer/dotter if I'm not much mistaken, so chances are you have a heal ready to go immediately.

I am a lightweight caster who can output decent damage, but I don't have any mitigation gear or regen. I also don't have angelic aura. However, when those people focus on me to start, I have frequently been hit for 20k+ in that opener. Basically, they wasted their massive opener on me and my 6k hp, instead of on the healer/dotter or the dps, that's more that they can do.

So, what you're essentially suggesting, is that regeners, dotters, and massively HP'd players are the only ones who should get full rating consistently, because they're more likely to survive at least a second or two against massive dps, despite the fact that often enough they only survive that long because the opposing team went for the glass cannon first.

[Master]

For one. It was my idea, no his... Let up off him

For two. It is a suggestion, and Idea which is brought up for discussion. There is no need for pointless attacks on idea.

The less time some of you spend correcting someones grammar or slamming them on their ideas and more time putting forth a proper counter suggestion or a new idea the better off everyone would be.

[Blaze]

There are times when we win 1v3 because they instadied.sure there are bonuses to openers but the point stands if you gotta kill all 3 members of the enemy team you put more effort in than the others so he wants a better reward for that effort than the people who contributed nothing.

Ex is pure dot BTW :{ he only gets gift of life/regen. >.>

I personally don't care about needing the weaklings that instadie...after all most people got alts among those instadiers....but I would appreciate some bonus if I do kill enemies 1v3.

[Hopilus]

I am a healer...and normally the first person targeted...so if I manage to stay alive for 75%+ of the fight but end up dying...you are saying that I don't deserve to get as much credit for the fight as the people who ended up living till the end...yeah...can't say I can get behind that suggestion.

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Master

For one. It was my idea, no his... Let up off him

For two. It is a suggestion, and Idea which is brought up for discussion. There is no need for pointless attacks on idea.

The less time some of you spend correcting someones grammar or slamming them on their ideas and more time putting forth a proper counter suggestion or a new idea the better off everyone would be.

They're not pointless attacks on the idea, I think it's a terrible idea and I said why. You're basically saying everyone needs to be tanky if they want credit for the fight. That's a good way to make the arena pretty bland.

[Zaark]

Got your point but disapprove, make it more competitive on the end or something and ill support..but for now, let everyone have their fun.
You get more rating when you win many in a row, so overall you have an advantage over those people who ''you carry''.
Funny how some people use the ''put effort'' excuse using a toon ''they'' put so much effort to build -.-
You know it gets really annoying when you get to call others weakling just because no one gave them an op toon, what about you show some respect to the people who are casual player and try to enjoy the game, instead of bashing them or bragging about stuff you achieve with someone else toon. jezz.

[Excellence]

After talking to several people I did realise I jumped a bit too soon to conclusion, let's wait and see how it all solves with rating and all, I just wasn't pleased seeing low levels so high ranked just because they queued all the time. This idea seemed nice to cover that part of people constantly being carried when solo they couldn't get to 500 rating

[Excellence]

My idea is flawed primarily if person that dies at 4th minute mark or something.. Should probably be for people who die within first 10 seconds or something like that, probably should've added that. But yeah, I guess it's too soon to discuss something like this when season didn't even properly start

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by Zaark

Got your point but disapprove, make it more competitive on the end or something and ill support..but for now, let everyone have their fun.
You get more rating when you win many in a row, so overall you have an advantage over those people who ''you carry''.
Funny how some people use the ''put effort'' excuse using a toon ''they'' put so much effort to build -.-
You know it gets really annoying when you get to call others weakling just because no one gave them an op toon, what about you show some respect to the people who are casual player and try to enjoy the game, instead of bashing them or bragging about stuff you achieve with someone else toon. jezz.

:{ I have put a fair amount of effort in but I will ignore that part. As for calling others weaklings a weakling is a weakling regardless of who says it. Casual players are fine but that doesn't mean they are strong. So a weakling is still a weakling regardless of reasons.

I will admit weakling is a bit of a harsh word but people who die in seconds vs teams I can solo ie 3 toons that lack the dps to match my regen and/or heals are fairly weak

[Jadakris]

Not really needed, they spent the time to sit there just aslong as you did. Punishing them for not being as good will deter people from doing arena.. which is taking content away from casual players.

[SiSiX]

...just a fading, memory...