Glitch! I want a refund!

[Master]

No but serious.
I have my chat set to where when i type it automatically goes to /g.
If I hit ANY other key than wsadf it will actually type as attended. However, because of this hotkey thing you you have set that I never use and dont care to. I was 1 south of faar flashing as a pker 100% safe from all because no one can reach there when I went to type to my group "dude we just have 20 mins flash left" and bam... it took me to fungi when i got instant death.

I think this is unfair because you know very well that I wouldnt do that on purpose as well as far as I know there is no way to turn those keys off.

I hope you can fix this for me.

[Master]

3954Beorn: Bought: 1 Regulus Legging }I{ Date: 12/1/2014 09:55:54 Prm Days: 56.0491 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3955Beorn: Bought: 1 Regulus Legging }I{ Date: 12/1/2014 09:55:56 Prm Days: 56.0491 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
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3957Beorn: Bought: 15 Mitigation Potion Rank 1 Date: 12/1/2014 09:58:23 Prm Days: 56.0474 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3958Beorn: Bought: 15 Potion of Stone Rank 1 Date: 12/1/2014 09:58:27 Prm Days: 56.0473 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3959Beorn: Bought: 15 Potion of Devastation Rank 1 Date: 12/1/2014 09:58:39 Prm Days: 56.0472 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3960Beorn: Bought: 15 Potion of Blight Rank 1 Date: 12/1/2014 09:58:43 Prm Days: 56.0471 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3961Beorn: Sold: 1 Crested Goldsteel Arm Date: 12/1/2014 10:09:47 Prm Days: 56.0395 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3962Beorn: Bought: 1 Crested Goldsteel Arm Date: 12/1/2014 10:09:49 Prm Days: 56.0394 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3963Beorn: Sold: 1 Heavy Goldsteel Legging Date: 12/1/2014 10:09:51 Prm Days: 56.0394 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3964Beorn: Bought: 1 Heavy Goldsteel Legging Date: 12/1/2014 10:09:53 Prm Days: 56.0394 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3965Beorn: Traded 0g to Umbra for 200000g Date: 12/1/2014 10:10:39 Prm Days: 56.0389 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3966Beorn: Sold: 1 Heavy Goldsteel Legging Date: 12/1/2014 10:10:43 Prm Days: 56.0388 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3967Beorn: Bought: 1 Heavy Goldsteel Legging Date: 12/1/2014 10:10:45 Prm Days: 56.0388 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3968Beorn: Traded 0g, 1 Heavy Goldsteel Legging to Umbra for 0g Date: 12/1/2014 10:11:51 Prm Days: 56.038 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11
3969Beorn: Permdeath Date: 12/1/2014 10:48:31 Prm Days: 56.0126 Std Days: 0 TCs: 11

[Master]

Ok so apparently there is a way to disable hotkeys. I was just told about this in clan chat. But I didnt know there was a way and for years i have been using chat to type to /g when i press a key. Its easier and faster for arena and such. There is nothing in game that tells you about hotkeys, how to operate or turn off/on. A tutorial on that in game would be nice so people know. I understand it may or may not be listed on forums somewhere, but that is hardly fair to expect people to log on everyday to check if anything new is added and read every detail of it.

I never used hot keys, Im stuck in my old ways of playing which has worked years for me. I REALLY think it is completely unfair that I died due to a added feature that overrides how I have been playing for years.

Im just digging now, but I also think its a bit odd that you have all these warnings like "are you sure you want to go pk?" "are you sure you want to SB this item?" ect... but yet nothing for "are you sure you want to walk into a zone 40 levels higher than you while flashing red thus instant killing you and being perma death"

Obviously im not making this up and obviously I just didnt think that I was superman and I could take on the mob because I am one of your most experienced players and I know better. So im sure you know im not making any of this up in a attempt to recover from being a dumbtard.

This was literally a mistake made because I tried chatting to my group and your hotkey thing made me walk east instead of typing D.

This is in no way a threat. but if you cant see that this is a issue and help me out on it, I will have to quit on S2 because to be honest I dont have all the money to get back to where I was. I dont think anyone wins if that is the case and I really hope you pull a MOT here and see that this is a issue and give me a "refund".

[Blaze]

>_> i would be irate if i got pkked like that

[Umbrastar]

Frustrating considering all the time and effort it took us to beat the level 95 boss as a group of lvl 60s

I hope glitchless finds a way to reverse this and give him back what he earned.

[Master]

Lol, im surprisingly calm... I just think im still in shock...
I was standing stationary just chatting to my group, then the next thing you know i see my guy move right and then i saw a black screen, then a brief bit of red and BAM i was in t1 at level 1. Im sure as soon as I get to work and I start thinking about it ill be more pissed but right now im just in shock lol

[Tharkas]

Ouch

[SiSiX]

...just a fading, memory...

[Master]

It has been brought to my attention recently that If i dont come back to s2 others will also stop playing there. I do not promote such things and wish all the best for s2 still but I simply cannot go back just to try and regain all that was lost due to "in my opinion" a developers mistake. You should never be able to use the same key to travel that you would use and have used for 5+ years to group chat with. I really hope glitch does what is fair here and help me out so that we all can go on about our merry ways. Other wise its just back to s1 where I have no reason to spend more money as I do on s2. what is it, 2 months now? And 600 spent. I really hope it wasnt a waste.

[Epic]

"Generally I don't support stupidity" It was stupid simple as that. The issue is not the hot keys. Beorn AKA Thorin died flashing red as a pk. The rules are if u die as a pk you lose your gear. It is as simple as that. In addition, Beorn was saying derogatory things about Glitch in KCNO chat. Check the log. So in my humble opinion it would be unfair and against the rules to give Beorn his gear back and or skill. Other wise to be fair you would need to give back gear to every pk that died while Red. Secondly, he does not deserve special help because of his derogatory statements about Glitch. Third, his threat to leave and take players with him to manipulate Glitch into getting his stuff back is blackmail. Let him leave if he wants. There are lots of players that believe it unfair for him to get anything back. They are truly afraid to speak out against Beorn/Thorin.

[Master]

the only thing I said about glitch in kcno chat was that he probably wont do anything and will assume ill just drop more cash to build back up which I wont. You obviously have a issue against me to try and bend it other wise. Im sure i know who you are from a previous comment you made in chat that pretty much just repeats what you just post. There was no threat that I would take others with me seems how i said i do not promote that, its just a fact. Umbra and Alison both said they will also be done on that server if i dont return. There are a few others that asked that I dont say their names.

What happened to me is completely different than what happened to your friend spock... I was not running from anyone, I was not traveling and I was not farming. I was simply stationary carrying a conversation with my group. I just so happen to hit the D in the beginning of one of my sentences that made me move due to recent addings to the game. What had happened to me was not a choice of mine as it was your friend Spock, he chose to move each spot he moved in.

[Master]

So anoying that people make new accounts which is against the TOU just to reply to my threads. Wish people would grow a pair. Making a new account to just lie about things is sickening. COWARDS!

[Akilthedestroyer]

To be honest, you got it hard in the rear Thorin... but the fact that the hotkeys can be permanently switched off... and has been in place for the past 1 month+... And this hot key feature has been online for at least 2 months, and you knew about them. Thereby it is your fault that you forgot to switch the hot keys off. Agreed it's a huge loss, but then it's player mistake and Glitch has stated that player mistakes have to be lived with. Sorry man.

[Master]

I do understand that akil, but my point is, i honestly didnt know about turning hotkeys off and several other people dont as well... If its not in the game directly how to do something like a tutorial how is everyone supposed to know? Not everyone checks forums for stuff like that.

[EnigmaWave]

/h is NOT permanent on the Java client, it only lasts until the next relog.

[EnigmaWave]

The only thing which I feel needs to be re-evaluated is mobs being able to cause perma-death.

The purpose of mobs causing perma-death while flashing is simple, to prevent pks from cheating by killing once, then fleeing to the safety of town without having survived the entire duration of their pk timer, at the "cheap" cost of a little lost rt.

We already know that being sent to town is not an intrinsic requirement of death, per the change to clan battles while too encumbered to move, so going forward, why not this?

Dying to a mob while flashing results in:
* the usual loss of rested time (or perhaps double the usual amount, just because)
* being ejected from combat WITHOUT being sent back to town
* and a brief map stun during which the pk is unable to move in any direction (giving pkks a chance to catch-up and land the killing blow themselves)

Perma-death should be the result of "honest-to-god" pvp, not petty mistakes such as this.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by EnigmaWave

The only thing which I feel needs to be re-evaluated is mobs being able to cause perma-death.

The purpose of mobs causing perma-death while flashing is simple, to prevent pks from cheating by killing once, then fleeing to the safety of town without having survived the entire duration of their pk timer, at the "cheap" cost of a little lost rt.

We already know that being sent to town is not an intrinsic requirement of death, per the change to clan battles while too encumbered to move, so going forward, why not this?

Dying to a mob while flashing results in:
* the usual loss of rested time (or perhaps double the usual amount, just because)
* being ejected from combat WITHOUT being sent back to town
* and a brief map stun during which the pk is unable to move in any direction (giving pkks a chance to catch-up and land the killing blow themselves)

Perma-death should be the result of "honest-to-god" pvp, not petty mistakes such as this.

^ this

also the PK system needs serious reevaluation

I was bored to tears when I went on my sprees. The actual killing was fun. 15 minutes of intrigue and excitement and looting. And then 30 minutes of waiting which makes the initial heart-racing thrill of PKing unbearably tedious. Do you have any idea how boring it is sitting in the corner of the docks waiting for a 30 minute timer to expire? It is one of the worst experiences in my life. That is not an exaggeration.

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by EnigmaWave

The only thing which I feel needs to be re-evaluated is mobs being able to cause perma-death.

The purpose of mobs causing perma-death while flashing is simple, to prevent pks from cheating by killing once, then fleeing to the safety of town without having survived the entire duration of their pk timer, at the "cheap" cost of a little lost rt.

We already know that being sent to town is not an intrinsic requirement of death, per the change to clan battles while too encumbered to move, so going forward, why not this?

Dying to a mob while flashing results in:
* the usual loss of rested time (or perhaps double the usual amount, just because)
* being ejected from combat WITHOUT being sent back to town
* and a brief map stun during which the pk is unable to move in any direction (giving pkks a chance to catch-up and land the killing blow themselves)

Perma-death should be the result of "honest-to-god" pvp, not petty mistakes such as this.

nibbles said it best when he said: ^ this

[Gooddevil]

Originally Posted by EnigmaWave

The only thing which I feel needs to be re-evaluated is mobs being able to cause perma-death.

The purpose of mobs causing perma-death while flashing is simple, to prevent pks from cheating by killing once, then fleeing to the safety of town without having survived the entire duration of their pk timer, at the "cheap" cost of a little lost rt.



We already know that being sent to town is not an intrinsic requirement of death, per the change to clan battles while too encumbered to move, so going forward, why not this?

Dying to a mob while flashing results in:
* the usual loss of rested time (or perhaps double the usual amount, just because)
* being ejected from combat WITHOUT being sent back to town
* and a brief map stun during which the pk is unable to move in any direction (giving pkks a chance to catch-up and land the killing blow themselves)

Perma-death should be the result of "honest-to-god" pvp, not petty mistakes such as this.

^ couldn't agree more. Also even if you hit mob that in theory couldn't kill you you still can get dazed and kill yourself. Perhaps loss of rt and 10 second stun would do. On top of it it would be treated as recall place which would prevent you from escaping combat.

Lol as a joke you should be able to kill that mob who killed you and loot your gear back

[Nemesiss]

Originally Posted by Akilthedestroyer

To be honest, you got it hard in the rear Thorin... but the fact that the hotkeys can be permanently switched off... and has been in place for the past 1 month+... And this hot key feature has been online for at least 2 months, and you knew about them. Thereby it is your fault that you forgot to switch the hot keys off. Agreed it's a huge loss, but then it's player mistake and Glitch has stated that player mistakes have to be lived with. Sorry man.

lg's out for over a yr and all knows buying from store was sb yet mot 'unknowingly' buys and it gets fixed. this isnt much different cept for that hot keys werent out near as long and is highly possible thorin didnt know, and most likely cause he's half human half dumbass (sometimes)..(ok more than sometimes).. (usually)...