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Old 03-17-2014, 07:37 PM   #21
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Well said Sissy. Like I said, BMs are popular cause they're easy, not cause they're insanely super op. Maybe we should just consider nerfing ALL the flavours of the month, before someone builds a DoT/Archer/Whipper/DDer/Regenner and Nod implodes.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:43 PM   #22
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6 hit a lot of topic's nails on the head. Also, Chloe has had that set up(piercer/bow at least) for a while, Tro wasn't the first, just probably the "richest" to do it.

TLR of 6's p

BMs = easiest high lvl farming, speed is @ the top...including archer/BMs
DDs/DoTs = way too much clicking, but have good speed as well, just need hella more gems and crap to get there.
2H = fairly easy to build, fairly good speed.
DW = bout 10-15% slower than 2H by dps standards...but basically teh same builds...although some gems help them sliiiiightly more than 2h, and have some cool combos.

Sure, some balancing would be nice, but also, PvE =/= PvP, and 1 build can't be the best at everything...at least right now it isn't. DoTs are probs the strongest all around atm, but give you carpal tunnel pretty quickly unless you do hand work outs everyday.

IMO, the only thing that really needs adjusting, is regen. And it needs to be nerfed!
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:58 PM   #23
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Glitch being against nerfs is what brings us to where we are now as opposed to a couple years ago. Yeah the game evolves and yes no nerfing seems good on paper but buffing X instead of nerfing Y is essentially the same as nerfing Y except it just doesn't effect Y's pve. The constant buffing of classes has its greatest effect in pvp and it is visible though the massive hp we are all able to have and even more massive hits we are able to do.

Bm's are cheap and easy to build, perfect for afk farming or mass farming an army of alts. They also boast the ability to farm higher levels more effectively, solo or grouped, since they can tank dps and heal in one package. The bleeds provide constant dps and when it is under 20% (which can be quite a lot of hp for some mobs) it pretty much doubles the fight speed.

Most other builds require more effort or at least having to watch yourself to make sure you don't need to run or some such.

I just think that Worgen should be reevaluated as it greatly helps the bm's have much more consistant hits. Perhaps lower it to 33% rather than 75%. Imo the tankyness/safeness while farming was the good tradeoff for a slightly lower kill speed. Now they have the killspeed it is silly to go for something else atm unless you are filling a pvp slot such as healer or dedicated tank.
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:54 AM   #24
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oh so one thing i think should be changed. is make it so pets dont attack till you auto attack. or at least add a surrender button or something for arena. cuz nothing is worst then having afk bm team kill you. and you just sit there waiting 10 mins for fight to end.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:21 AM   #25
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Doesn't matter, if Glitch would of cared he would of posted something already. But he obviously doesn't care so no point in posting anymore
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:40 AM   #26
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Or with a piercer?
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:14 AM   #27
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Why would you swap to a 38 delay weapon when the bow will fire at near half speed with quiver.
Chance to tri/mega crit would be far higher + based on his stat layout and only 200 dex/56 str he wouldn't do near max damage. So general observation and the mechanics of the game justify he was using a staff
nope he was trying a new build with a pierce.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:37 PM   #28
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it's not a new build....
for him, as he had to buy them and put em on, it was new, therefore you're an idiot.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:28 PM   #29
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I've had my 88 bow for a year. If I suddenly start using it instead of my 1H Crush/Whip combo, that'd be a new build.

Also, if any build needs a buff, it's 1H Crush.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

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Old 03-23-2014, 05:09 PM   #30
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If you decide to use the gear you have/had equipped in a different fashion doesn't make it new. You have just chosen to accent different parts of your current build. As a build is catered around gear and skills/stats accent different parts of a build.

Kinda like a bm adding opening shot with the bow they already had equipped. Not new, just making use of the options the build had already provided. Same as in your case if you decided to use the bow you have already incorporated in your build a year ago.

Kinda like having Beguiler's Blades and then swapping them out for Fang Spear of Conjuration. As an archer regardless of which is chosen the proc. allows for the same build. Each will allow a slightly different stat layout for the build but it's the same build.
If you switch from 600 Str / 350 Dex - 50 Int / 50 Cnc to 50 Str / 400 Dex - 400 Int / 400 Cnc, that's a new build.
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u guys are making me tell secret about my build i am trying to stop myself
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Old 03-25-2014, 01:09 PM   #32
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I am a bm and in no way do i feel "OP" but i am having more fun then my earlier guardian. i hope a nerf will not ruin my experience. that is all.
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