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02-26-2014, 03:25 PM
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Boss Hunter
Dennisthemenace is offline
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Feb Patch Sneak Peek
Liking what I am reading.
Did make me think of something I have not mentioned before. Clan runes vault.
It fills up rather fast and there are clans that are struggling with the limited space... could it possibly be expanded by another row?
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02-26-2014, 04:02 PM
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Seer's BFF
Sexykills is offline
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umm only 5tc's fer keeping everything on reroll o.0 dun ya think thats a bit cheap? i mean wasnt unbinding an having to transfer stuff ment as a gold sink as well as making rerolling a commitment rather then an easy whim?
now all i see it doing is allowinf for peeps to jus reroll on whims an drive in game tc's up but heck if were gonna drive tc's up anyhow why not make keeping everything durring reroll a bit less easy an conveniant i mean it costs like 20tc's now to unbind jus one LG so why not make keeping stuff on reroll cost substantially more then the pety 5tc's or are we wanting peeps to be rerolling constantly on a whim much like they do changing 2nd classes back an fourth jus fer arena an stuff?
also i am seeing this as a very easy way for something many have bitched about alot in past an that is the ability for low lvls to be easily all decked out in high end LG gear but i guess that patch making store LG's non sb already started that in that direction already along with overiding past patches to make crafters more usefull by making them less usefull now again.. so when ya gonna release the pets for purchase from store an morphability so that all LG's can be more like comons which im guessing is the goal of all these easy patches.. so custom faces= 45 tc's but millions in gear jus a low 5tc's lol nice goldsink nurf lol
i do however like the long requested gate / recall location indicator now how bout that location grid overlay?
anyhow thats jus my 2cents or errr maybe a full nickle 
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02-26-2014, 04:40 PM
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Epic Scholar
Smashbros is offline
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Enchantrashing has been added and can be learned from the Seer for a fee of 5,000,000g. Enchantrashing is toggle-able and when activated you will have a 50/50 chance when you trash (skull and crossbones icon) or destroy a resource to actually produce a higher tier of that resource. This is great for gatherers who want more room in their inventory, allowing you to uptier quickly by clicking your held resources on the skull and crossbones icon. You will no longer be able to destroy max tier resources on that icon. Does not work for essences, but works for dusts.
so this works on the trash icon when you get said resource?? if i trash 12, will i get 12 of the higher?? how higher?? if i trash a stack of tier 2, i dont want to get a stack of tier 3 in return.
love the rest of the patch though.
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02-26-2014, 04:49 PM
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02-26-2014, 05:59 PM
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Auction Master
beetdabrat is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashbros
Enchantrashing has been added and can be learned from the Seer for a fee of 5,000,000g. Enchantrashing is toggle-able and when activated you will have a 50/50 chance when you trash (skull and crossbones icon) or destroy a resource to actually produce a higher tier of that resource. This is great for gatherers who want more room in their inventory, allowing you to uptier quickly by clicking your held resources on the skull and crossbones icon. You will no longer be able to destroy max tier resources on that icon. Does not work for essences, but works for dusts.
so this works on the trash icon when you get said resource?? if i trash 12, will i get 12 of the higher?? how higher?? if i trash a stack of tier 2, i dont want to get a stack of tier 3 in return.
love the rest of the patch though.
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That's why you can toggle it off. Though could be a fun game to see how high you can get it  It will also work if you right click and destroy a stack as well.
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02-26-2014, 07:59 PM
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Boss Hunter
jadedsoul is offline
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resorces down and up
so with enough luck I could down tier a t30 into 536,870,912 tier ones then with enough luck I could uptier those 536,870,912 tier ones into that many t 30 again. yes I mean a lot of luck but still this seems a bit wacked to me.
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02-26-2014, 08:32 PM
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Auction Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jadedsoul
so with enough luck I could down tier a t30 into 536,870,912 tier ones then with enough luck I could uptier those 536,870,912 tier ones into that many t 30 again. yes I mean a lot of luck but still this seems a bit wacked to me.
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You realize it would take about 38 years straight to downtier 256m t2s down to t1 right @52 silks per stack? and that you would need about 24.2k toons to hold it all... Unless of course you macroed the 24k toons to downtier it all. Thats with 100 storage, bping and packmule on each toon.
I am too lazy to do the math on how effective downtiering then uptiering to more reasonable levels would be so we'll just have to wait for the patch to see if it indeed would be better to gamble it.
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02-26-2014, 10:03 PM
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Samhaine is offline
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For the downtiering it says between 1x & 2x. That means with a stack of 52, you can get 52-104.
I'm guessing there will be a bunch of 54-60s in there, and not a whole lot of 80+. So just relax and wait for the patch.
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02-26-2014, 10:15 PM
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Boss Hunter
Jarrhal is offline
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So.... enchantrashing.... does it just give 1 tier higher or a random # of tiers higher. Ive already got my 5m standing by ready to go.
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02-27-2014, 12:47 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
Zan is offline
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One question that comes to mind: if the players doesnt have the virtues for the epics sb to him, will those be kept aswell on this paid reroll?
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02-27-2014, 07:19 PM
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Auction Master
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Spider Trapping - Every point in this skill increases your chances of finding silk by 1%. Also every 5 points in this skill halves your chances of finding silk but increases the tier of silk you find by one.
The way that its worded makes it sound like you will only get 1/524288th of the silks you'd normally get. As in halving it every 5 levels would be 2/2 ^ 20 by level 100
I must be missing something...
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02-27-2014, 07:33 PM
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Glitchless is offline
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The current wording is confusing (as evidenced by an improper explanation we gave in civil earlier). We'll be changing the skill before the patch.
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02-27-2014, 07:34 PM
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Auction Master
beetdabrat is offline
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I figured it was the wording 
Thanks for the reply.
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02-27-2014, 10:50 PM
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Epic Scholar
Sanluciferr is offline
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like.
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02-28-2014, 11:36 AM
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brow is offline
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"Spider Trapping - This skill increases the tier of silks you find but greatly decreases your chances of finding them. At a skill of 100 you will only get 1 silk for every 300 you used to get, but it will be 10 tiers higher than usual"
1 silk for every 300? I maybe get silk once out of every 10 fights, now you're saying it will take 300 TIMES that? So basically we will never get silk, but when we do it will be higher tier? Still seems way way off to me...
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02-28-2014, 12:32 PM
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If you're someone who uptiers silks, getting a silk 10 tiers higher is worth 1024x what it would have been. Depending on the tier of silk you want, it may be beneficial for players to level this skill in increments to target silk ranges rather than go to 100. But if you're farming for profit, 100 is most likely best, and saves you inventory space and looting time to boot.
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02-28-2014, 01:01 PM
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Boss Hunter
brow is offline
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While I understand your mathematical reasoning, the issue behind why you made the patch isn't getting resolved (imo). The point, at least as I understood it, was that people have been complaining because there is a serious lack of high tier silk (which there used to be plenty of), which is necessary for ALL high tier crafting. So basically if a 10 tiers higher silk is 1024x better, but it takes 300x as long to get it, all you've really done is give a whopping 3x the current amount of silk, at the cost of leveling a new skill to 100. Why not just put it back to how it was before, where you got high tier silk from high tier mobs, in reasonable amounts?
edit: OH, the thing I had originally planned to put in before my rant: How about making silk eligible for enchanttrashing? Or is it already?
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02-28-2014, 02:12 PM
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Auction Master
beetdabrat is offline
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I'm pretty sure that silk is included for enchantrashing. When its activated it also works when you select the destroy stack option. I could be wrong though.
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02-28-2014, 03:48 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
Zan is offline
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@brow: It will help high tier crafting. Just check how many t12-17 silks are sold to store instead of upcrafted (because its far from worth the time spent). From how I see this, the game will upcraft those for you with an even better outcome (x300 instead of x1024), so we can expect much more rare silks being inserted into market.
@glitchless: However, at skill 100, im concerned about t22-30 silks that will all end up being t30 but get nerfed 300 times, while you could get t30 with 256 (at t22) silks or less for tiers above that.
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02-28-2014, 10:33 PM
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Boss Hunter
Barsoom is offline
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Hey Glitch,
I'm loving the fact that there is a visual representation of our last recall point. That said, the flashing arrows make it look like a cheap motel. Sometimes this game hits too close to home. :/
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