PK Credit

lol, Jeff.

In the grand scheme of things I don't think it's going to change anything considering loot can still be taken from grey players. More power to the PKs though

I actually like this one.
Although, now we have to keep a regular count on our own.

Yeh there is that, but it just doesn't make since if it doesn't count towards your PK count I think you shouldn't be able to loot. Although then again that defeats the purpose of killing someone any way. So overall I do think what has been done is the best option.

if that were to be done, pking would come to an abrupt end.

Exactly and no one wants that.

[Valiumandritalin]

Jeff does.

So, since PKs dont get credit for anyone who does not con to them, then I say we should make it so that only players that con to the PKer should be able to cause Permadeath upon PKK. I mean, if the PKer is grey to the PKKer, then why should the PK suffer for something beyond his/her control?

Silly update.

If you are going to further dumb down pk, at least make it less harsh for the pkers.

[Hopilus]

what i think he is saying...is that if a pk is lvl 25 and gets pkked by a lvl 36, that the pk should not suffer permadeath. that does make it less harsh for the pkers....

Originally Posted by kryonastus

Silly update.

If you are going to further dumb down pk, at least make it less harsh for the pkers.

I think hop, that he was speaking to Jeff, not me LOL.

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean, realistically, there is almost no downside to being pked now. Yet the pkers are still faced with the almost microscopic end of the stick.

Perhaps give them a death count before they are finally permakilled. Say, 2 deaths below level 30, 3 deaths above or something.

Having played a number of online games with various aspects of PKing in all of them, what I have seen so far on Nodiatis is a free for all for the few select players who've managed to reach a nice level, and of course don't want ANYTHING to change during their current killing spree.

Not mentioning any names in particular, but currently the PKers who are maxed out is hardly getting the "short end of the stick", especially when no one can take them down either singly or in a group of three. And as they seem intent on racking up their kill count by targeting newbs on Travellers Way, I welcome the changes Jeff has implemented so far.

And also whilst you may not want to acknowledge it, Jeff is first and foremost running a business ... if we have to spend all out time hiding in Castille for fear of stepping outside then we'll soon get bored and leave the game. Lost customer = lost income.

Now, how to fix the "problems" but not completely nerf PKing ?

I'd suggest an honor system. Bear with me if the details are a little sketchy but ...

We expect PKer's to be honourable, and at least take on a challenge of someone within a reasonable distance to their own level ... let's face it, lvl 60 on lvl 1 is neither honourable behaviour OR fair to the newb who's trying to start out, and as I've said, will eventually cost REAL business to the game.

So, how about, if a PKer kills within say 10 levels of his own level, he wins an honour point ... if he kills lower than say 10 levels of his own level, he loses an honour point.

Only if a PKer is on "negative" honour points will a PKK mean permadeath.

This, hypothetically, we have a PKer on lvl 60.

He kills a lvl 55 and wins an honour point, so he's on +1.

He then goes and kills a lvl 1 and loses an honour point, so he's back to 0.
(If he get's PKKed at this point, he will NOT suffer permadeath)

If he then goes and kills another lvl 1 and loses another honour point, he's on -1.
(If he NOW get's PKKed at this point, he WILL suffer a permadeath).

So the onus is put on the PKer to behave in an honourable manner, and by doing so, doesn't risk permadeath and can CONTINUE to enjoy a fun aspect of the game.

That's my idea anyway, take it or leave it ... to be honest I'd like to have an input on how the game develops, I don't want to see PKing nerfed, but at the same time I do think it needs to be under better control right now.

[Valiumandritalin]

Heh.

Waiting in agony for the next patch.

Originally Posted by Drakko

Exactly and no one wants that.

hmmm.....

Wait, who is stupid enough to expect pkers to be honorable? Since when was that an expectation... what games have you been playing.

We expect PKer's to be honourable, and at least take on a challenge of someone within a reasonable distance to their own level ... let's face it, lvl 60 on lvl 1 is neither honourable behaviour OR fair to the newb who's trying to start out, and as I've said, will eventually cost REAL business to the




At least learn the pk system before you make a judgement on the pking ....level 1 can not be pked.




Mara

Originally Posted by Mara

We expect PKer's to be honourable, and at least take on a challenge of someone within a reasonable distance to their own level ... let's face it, lvl 60 on lvl 1 is neither honourable behaviour OR fair to the newb who's trying to start out, and as I've said, will eventually cost REAL business to the




At least learn the pk system before you make a judgement on the pking ....level 1 can not be pked.




Mara

Mara are u crazy or what? who do u think i could kill instead of low lvls when there still ARENT enough high lvls ingame? what, u think ill go and kill Zenga every time? Silly.. and ye i dont wanna wait 1 year to be able to pk normally like i do now with noobs.

[Valiumandritalin]

Darkshine.

Just do it.

Originally Posted by Srci

Mara are u crazy or what? who do u think i could kill instead of low lvls when there still ARENT enough high lvls ingame? what, u think ill go and kill Zenga every time? Silly.. and ye i dont wanna wait 1 year to be able to pk normally like i do now with noobs.

Well why don't you help power level people? Like me?