PK Credit

[Hopilus]

that would mean he would have to like you to help you power lvl. and have you ever helped someone power level? i have, and the people better know i love them, cause it is boring and tedious......

[Valiumandritalin]

Or you can put the same effort into achieving what you want as he/we did ?

Originally Posted by Srci

Mara are u crazy or what? who do u think i could kill instead of low lvls when there still ARENT enough high lvls ingame? what, u think ill go and kill Zenga every time? Silly.. and ye i dont wanna wait 1 year to be able to pk normally like i do now with noobs.

Srci, this was the post by detrimental. The 2nd part was mine...




~Mara~

[Valiumandritalin]

Don't beg.

Earn it.

Heh, you complain that PKers are under a real disadvantage, but what you really mean is that you just want to continue with your noob killing fest with no repercussions.

Yes, I've played plenty of games, and PKers who went for people close to their own level were revered almost as Gods ... the ability to have close fightsd and come out victorious MEANT something.

No, but you want to just kill newbs without any risk.

There are already plenty of people getting into the 20's and 30's and even 40's already ... there's a bit of a f**king difference between killing them, and pilling up the kill count with lvl 1 - 10.

Still please yourself - you did say at one point you wouln't PK anyway ... soon as you hit lvl 60 you went power mad, and now will do anything to justify your behaviour.

Maybe I should have suggested maturity points rather than honour points, but then you'd ALWAYS be negative.

[Valiumandritalin]

Whoa.

I'd say what you just wrote is slightly, if not a lot, immature.

Preach to yourself, we don't care.

[doctor-warlord]

I would have to say that if your lvl 60 pk'er then you should mainly hunt in some of the more high lvl areas where the lvl 1-10 cant reach

for instance why not 20-40 area's so you also get a little challange out of the fight and also where you have greater chances of getting something actually worth stealing

[Valiumandritalin]

I'm lv 42.

Bear with me.

[doctor-warlord]

of course i understand why you wouldnt go much higher then like 10-30 when pk'ing but its those that go after people more then like 20-30 lvls lower then themselfes i think mostly are in it to annoy people

There's no higher challenge fighting 30s or 40s as a level 60, except it takes a couple seconds longer. The level difference means they will pretty much never hit even at only 10 levels lower.

[doctor-warlord]

well there i would have to disagree i would say depends on how high there skills are and if they have trained all stats or only a few to become strong in a single type of combat for instance im lvling really slowly and have a ton of skills at my lvl or higher to make it easier for me to survive and if your power lvl skills instead of stats you can become able to use much better equipment which could even out the odds significantly

From what Scri told me, at lvl 60, fighting all 3 of Deckers lvl 50's, Decker never hit one single time. Now you tell em where the difference is between fighting 10 levels below you or 30 levels below you is. I'll tell you where it is. Its in the loot. Level 30's will not have loot as good as level 50's, and thats where we are already rewarded for killing within our range. Now stop whining.

And another thing, if you have never PKed before, do not try to explain it as something easy to keep what you've worked on countless hours. It is extremely difficult to simply stay alive as a PK right now, except for Scri, who is the only lvl 60 in the game, but that will soon change anyways, and it will no longer be so easy. If you've never done it, you are in no postition to talk about how easy it is. Stop whining, you goat-sucking turds.

Originally Posted by spartanairborne

From what Scri told me, at lvl 60, fighting all 3 of Deckers lvl 50's, Decker never hit one single time. Now you tell em where the difference is between fighting 10 levels below you or 30 levels below you is. I'll tell you where it is. Its in the loot. Level 30's will not have loot as good as level 50's, and thats where we are already rewarded for killing within our range. Now stop whining.

And another thing, if you have never PKed before, do not try to explain it as something easy to keep what you've worked on countless hours. It is extremely difficult to simply stay alive as a PK right now, except for Scri, who is the only lvl 60 in the game, but that will soon change anyways, and it will no longer be so easy. If you've never done it, you are in no postition to talk about how easy it is. Stop whining, you gaot-sucking turds.

Kick there ass Spartan!

[Hopilus]

lawl

Originally Posted by detrimental

I'd suggest an honor system. Bear with me if the details are a little sketchy but ...

.....

So, how about, if a PKer kills within say 10 levels of his own level, he wins an honour point ... if he kills lower than say 10 levels of his own level, he loses an honour point.

Only if a PKer is on "negative" honour points will a PKK mean permadeath.

This, hypothetically, we have a PKer on lvl 60.

He kills a lvl 55 and wins an honour point, so he's on +1.

He then goes and kills a lvl 1 and loses an honour point, so he's back to 0.
(If he get's PKKed at this point, he will NOT suffer permadeath)

If he then goes and kills another lvl 1 and loses another honour point, he's on -1.
(If he NOW get's PKKed at this point, he WILL suffer a permadeath).

I really like this idea.

The problem with that idea is that there isn't very many players that are high enough for these guys.

Similar effect happened in magic duel, which is a full Pk game. (can only get exp if you pk other people or if people who tried to kill you lose the fight.)

Basically in MP3 (starting MP level) you had either win or loss. once you win 100 fights, you are now in MP4. in Mp for you have a win, victory, defeat, retreat. Only victory and defeat counted.

Defeat was easy, while victory was hard. The second thing MD had was something called Balance. If you where balanced between your victorys and defeats, you would gain 100% more exp. Once you hit -500 honor you could only do fights that would give you honor, or fights where people would attack you.

People would farm losses to make themselves appear weaker in the system, or they would continue through raping everyone they came across but never get the victories they wanted and only get defeated. End result is that you would quickly pile on negative honor unless you farmed losses to be as weak as everyone else.


Same thing apply here right now. Currently most of the player base is level 20 or lower. with most of the rest being 40 or lower. Beyond 40 is a lesser and lesser number, making it actually really hard to score pk points because there is like only 2 (hyperbole) people up to that level.

That only means you have to be smarter. Survey the playing population. Find out the largest group that would give you honor and then stay with that group.

In this game, that would mean limiting your level (if such a honor system were ever put in place).

In your example, Picho, it meant balancing your victories with defeats.

Play smarter, not harder.

[Valiumandritalin]

Caprica.

If a level 10 went PK and PK'd around his level [6-14], the lv 15+ population would quickly kill him off.

*hug*

Wow, that is really stupid and counterproductive to game progress.

Congratulations, your suggestion would break the game.



And what is this crap about honor or fairness? It is PK! Did you forget what that is?

What is wrong with you people. Boo hoo they stole a stack of my level 3 trophies I am going to cry myself to sleep at night, waaaah

What the hell, seriously. You don't even lose RT anymore...

I bet you guys still want to fight wars in the old firing line style too.

Mouseover the pk/pkk section of your stats, and tell me again where it says that pk-ing is supposed to be honorable.

Another thing, read over the thread where i began to form the PK guild, and tell me where i ever mentioned that such was our intention.