Players with 100% bonuses

Oneangel · 05-17-2013, 05:27 AM

Ok this is an idea that I think might be fun and fair, though not knowing anything about programming might be a little ambitious. Th basic premise is to prevent players with 100% epic beast bonus from being able to queue for the epic beast. This would allow more people the opportunity to kill an epic beast compared to the usual suspects. Of course, they would still be able to go for the legendary beast still.

However, I know a couple of toons with the 100% beast kill bonus would be disappointed to be no longer able to take part in beast hunts as they really enjoy the hunt. So my further idea is this:

Provided a toon has 100% bonus and completed one pilgrimage they be allowed to join the epic beast hunt but on the epic beast's team (since they are an epic player). To avoid aoe taunting or dd's which would be very unfair, epic players joining the beast's team would not be allowed to use any aoe gems. A tank could potentially taunt a single target but that would only drastically affect solo efforts at a beast which is fair enough since any player going vs a beast solo is just relying on luck in the queue order.

Epic players wishing to join the beast cannot group with it, they would queue in the normal way and provided there is available space alongside the beast they will be pulled into combat immediately on the side of the beast. If an epic player dies alongside the beast they are automatically escaped from combat and returned to town, allowing another epic player to join.

Just an idea, any comments very welcome.

Illiana · 05-17-2013, 07:22 AM

I knew I should have put this up sooner OA; you beat me to it. :P

I am entirely in favor of some of these ideas. I would add two changes to OA's concept here. First off, those toons who have achieved a 100% epic bonus should no longer be able to kill the epic beast. I'm okay with these super-toons being able to fight the beast, but only for a little while. Once the beast is below let's say 50% health, 100% epic toons can no longer participate in the beast queue. 50% sounds like a lot (and can be adjusted appropriately), but these are epic toons we're talking about.

Secondly,any toon that manages to gain a 100% gold bonus (that's fives fights with the beasty) can no longer participate in the fight while they still have a gold bonus. In other words, if the epic beast lives through a toon five times, then that toon must sit out and farm gold until the bonus goes away.

Setting things up this way would still allow epic toons to play with the epic beast (albeit for a limited time) without the extra coding or difficulty of adding to the beast's team. The beast is Glitch's "other" toon and is tough enough already; it doesn't need any more help. It would also help get certain toons out of the way and give the rest of Nod a shot at the beast.

Lastly, as OA mentioned all of this would apply only to the epic beast. The legendary beast would remain a free-for-all. Personally, I would not be opposed to implementing something like this on that beast as well, but these forums are enough of a whine tasting already. Let's not make that any worse.

Oneangel · 05-17-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Illiana

I knew I should have put this up sooner OA; you beat me to it. :P

Yeah, was our conversation in group that got me thinking

NoRemorse · 05-17-2013, 12:39 PM

Support

Qratos · 05-17-2013, 12:49 PM

So just because they've taken the time to get their toons good enough to consistently kill the beasts, they shouldn't be rewarded by fighting them anymore? There still is a prize for killing such as 33,333k and a TC btw...

No Support for above reason.

Hooker · 05-17-2013, 02:46 PM

idk if im reading this right (odds are im not) but what i get out of it is the person with 100% epic bonus fights on the beasts side? if im right then im going with no support otherwise if it can be explained to where i can understand it better than maybe ill give my support.

NoRemorse · 05-17-2013, 06:16 PM

No they can not fight the EPIC beast anymore, i was confused as well and asked Oneangel how she meant it. Epic players can still get the bonus but not the kill itself. At least that is what I understood from it

hotshot64 · 05-17-2013, 08:12 PM

Wait...but...this idea...would mean that those few who have a full bonus...can't prevent others from catching up...no support! WE MUST BE ABLE TO BLOCK PEOPLE FROM CATCHING UP TO US IN HP. IT'S ONLY FAIR TO STAB EACH OTHER IN THE BACK!!!!11111ONEONE

Jadakris · 05-17-2013, 09:06 PM

^ Don't use my ONE!!!!111ONEONEPLUS!!12@@#$%$'s

Thanks. And I kind of support this idea, kinda don't

Oneangel · 05-20-2013, 04:35 AM

@ hooker. You did read it right, a player that has 100% beast bonus would only be able to fight on the epic beasts team. This would increase the dps from the beasts "team" but compared to the 40k hits the beast can do the damage is virtually insignificant, it's just a way to give those players that had worked hard to get their bonus something to do while allowing more people a chance at a beast kill.

@ qratos. I do see your point about the gold/tc's, however the players with 100% bonus have already won more gold/tcs than those with no beast kills and for these very elite players 33k or even a tc is not going to affect their toon very much. However it's still a valid point you make, would you support if the idea was amended to allow them a shot at a gold/tc reward while still allowing others a chance at a beast kill?

coolmanx2 · 05-20-2013, 11:14 AM

I agree with Qratos, the people who achieved 100% bonus should still be able to beast hunt. They put a lot of effort in their characters and beast hunting is part of that reward. Plus with the epic quest don't you get 1% per completed quest? Also if you don't like the people who got 100% bonus clan battle them and keep them out of the queue.

Qratos · 05-20-2013, 11:44 AM

I've only killed the beast once, and as much as this idea appeals to me as to not having the OP beat it, it's also not fair to them to cut them out of hunting the beast.

Let's say you were the one with 100% epic bonus, and are on the verge of winning arena... Wouldn't you want to try and prevent anyone else from reaching the same bonus as you so they can possibly beat you. This will never be implemented by Glitchless I don't think or even considered to be honest. I mean, what's the point of a game if it caters to the weak by not letting the players that try and succeed play it.

Oneangel · 05-20-2013, 01:32 PM

Most of the players with 100% bonus are all to happy to help others less powerful than themselves kill beasts and the ones that win arena win by tactics and build strategy, i dont think they are that bothered about their opponents hp really. The people it would benefit most wont be toons like yours or mine, but the ones much newer that I can only imagine they find the prospect of ever catching and competing with the elite too daunting a task to pursue. This may appeal to glitch in the respect of keeping newer players from leaving the game. Meh, it was an idea, it didn't get much support so i wont push it anymore. Ty, for the input.

hotshot64 · 05-20-2013, 01:37 PM

Imagine a footrace. One very fast man, having worked hard for his speed, wins the race. Having won, he stands at the finish line, blocking anyone else from crossing, so no one else can cross and come close to his name. That's a lot how I view people who continue to kill the beast despite having 100% bonuses. It's their choice and it's actually a smart choice to keep others from getting their amount of hp, but it's a tremendously douche move.