Epic Players and Quests - some math

[Killda]

I kind of like the new patch, but i did some math as to how long it will take me to complete the 1st pilgrimage, and all 5 in total, to give me an idea.

I am a slow farmer as i am a tank, (and because i don't have great gear ) so I am sure other player will have different and faster way to complete the pilgrimages.

but I achieved level 24 in 9 hrs rrt ...
level 24 is about 2.1M xp ... knowing it requires in total 144.678M xp to get to level 86 with equal levelling all stats ... that means it would require me about 620 hrs rrt to get my first pilgrimage done, which (if I don't burn additional tcs) about 155 days of work with my 4 hours of daily rrt... that's 5 months to complete it !

now imagine I am doing all 5 pilgrimage and supposing they are the same difficulty (which they are not, they will be increasingly harder as you mentioned) ... that would be 25 month, so about 2 years ... (realistically this could end up with 3 years or more if you increase each pilgrimage difficulty...)

so my main concern , is 2 years to get it done, without any income sounds a bit ... overkill, and looks to me like the death of Nodiatis and especially clans which will have no rp at all during that time ... correct?

I know you want to sell more TCs etc... but how are we supposed to get it done without real $$ purchase? you basically froze your character for 2 years if you want to do the pilgrimage as intended.

I would suggest some alternatives options (just my 2 cents)
1) either you still continue getting gold during the pilgrimage at least,
2) you keep the no gold income (which fit a pilgrimage) but then you reduce the time it takes to complete a pilgrimage ( such as removing epic skill penalty on stat skills)
3) this option is a bit different. Once completing your first pilgrimage, the character will keep his new unlocked level 86, and this even if he starts a new pilgrimage. Then when he completes the second one, he will stay level 87, etc.. this at least will allow people to gain some gradual benefit during the course of their pilgrimage (for arena or farming higher areas), and not stay level 82 during all that time, and never fully enjoy the new levels they worked so hard to gain.

The way it is now with both options 1 and 2 at once seems to me quite extreme.

Using only one of the 3 options you still have a challenge to become epic player, but at least you don't completely render you character unusable during those 2 or more years.


Liking the new patch, but regretting that it can freeze a player for at least 2 or 3 years

ps: (sorry for the wall of text, and thanks for those reading until the end)

[LadyGaGya]

Support, this is going to make clans, impossible to maintain except through vigilant minimums, and i hate that

[Qratos]

The faster you get through the pilgrimage the quicker you can get back to actual farming and grinding RP, trophies, and such while fixing your stats if you want. But I agree, there needs to be something you gain during this period to net you an income. I understand you can resource, but not everyone does that and they rely on their chests and trophies as an income.

Make only a chest available or only trophies available while on a pilgirmage.

[Ermighurdz]

preemptive response form the man............ Make alts - thats what they are for.

i dun like it but - i have purposefully kept my alts of pilg - so i have som income and can help out plug the rp gap

3 years no gold /////wrist

[Qratos]

Meh, it's more like 1 week without gold tbh. I'm almost done

[Rath]

It is your choice to do this. If you decide that the benefits are worthwhile, then you should probably do it. If you decide that losing out on some gold and trophies is not for you, then don't do it. I don't understand why this is an issue to even bother Jeff with. He gave you an option. It is not for him to decide how you play his game, merely to give you a game to play.

[Killda]

once again, i decided to do the pilgrimage and I don't mind the challenge to get it done ... I choose to do it like a lot of other people, and accept the challenge
I won't care if it take 5 month, or even 1 year to complete a pilgrimage and that's why I proposed option 3, to at least get the benefit of your hard work once you complete it and that you can use on your future pilgrimage, and not go down in levels again in your next pilgrimage (even if minimum level will increase by 1).

[Rath]

On the second pilgrimage you will only go to level 83, then 84 and so on.

[paulodjohn]

Only problem I see with it is the fact that the pens stay after you complete a pilgrimage. Which will makes it very difficult for arena teams who will need to chop and change throughout the season to stay on top. It will take half the season alone to change a stat from 60-140 and vise verse. Personally this alone outweighs the gains from epic hp bonus as a result of a pilgrimage and further epic quests.

[Rath]

For you, perhaps. Not for everyone by any stretch. The people who would try to use the time spent to their advantage against someone who consistently wins every arena season. They will still spend time on this.

[paulodjohn]

they will never win arena unless they chop and change their build to counter their opposition. And when this takes months expect the same people to continue to win

[Rath]

I expect the same people to win, for now.

[chloe]

you dont have to do all 5 in one go, you could do one pilgrimage, take 6 months farming and then undertake another.

[Fior]

For rp contribution : 1% of exp gain may be transformed in rp.
...and btw, that game lasts about 4-5 years ? Who is in a hurry ?

[Lurkee]

only paulodliar could say that DOUBLE HP isn't worth slower reshuffling of player stats with a straight face while of course currently on a pilgrimage himself.

and then pretend like he wants people to be able to shuffle stats faster so they can counter his team in the arena. paulo, you're so full of it buddy. I hope others realize it when they read your posts but they probably don't.

[Takeda]

Originally Posted by Rath

It is your choice to do this. If you decide that the benefits are worthwhile, then you should probably do it. If you decide that losing out on some gold and trophies is not for you, then don't do it. I don't understand why this is an issue to even bother Jeff with. He gave you an option. It is not for him to decide how you play his game, merely to give you a game to play.

That my thinking to a T.

[paulodjohn]

You of all people hardly want to see the same people winning arena i.e (your favorite person me). I jumped into a pilgrim eager to try the new content without knowing the full ins and outs of it. how do you expect people to change to try counter better teams when it would take them a few weeks/months to do so, that is how a team wins believe it or not. trial and error until they get the right combo. You hardly think i like facing 99% of teams that don't have a chance. Its the close fights with the best teams that makes arena enjoyable. and as season goes by less and less teams are challenging.

[Lurkee]

and so you try to mislead people by saying pilgrimage isn't worth it while knowing full and well that you'll be doing it yourself to make sure 99% of the teams have no chance vs. you. don't get me wrong, you're beating those teams because you're smarter than them and deserve the wins but there's no need to do the mind games with these idiots as well.

[Qratos]

I find that offensive Lurkee... I am in NO WAY an idiot. I have my high school diploma as well as my bachelor's in Computer Programming and Web Design. How dare you insult the player base without knowing anything about any of them.

[NoRemorse]

I suggest lurkee gets banned for attacking the playerbase like this and his offensive manner of speaking in forums. Please do something bout this i , for one, am getting quiet sick of this.