Character Ratspike Banned for being Shared

[Master]

Paul its a losing battle, Rip said he wouldn't spend another penny until this was solved and I don't spend anymore on nod... so obviously he will go with what the spender wants. Also, he banned krimlinger already from forums... I don't want anymore friends banned in any way or form so lets just drop it.

The thing that bothers me is I didn't even get a message at all and when I try to contact him no response either.. You would think I should get atleast "hey im gonna ban you* but I got no message at all

And yes paul you are right... There was previous ACTUAL arena fixing in the past the glitch him self knew about... Its pick and choose and sadly it looks like THey all got heads and I landed on tails.

[Fior]

A toon can be sitter in this game ?
A toon can be sittering and not sharing ?
Is there a differences between sitting a toon and sharing a toon in this game ? If yes, wich is ?

[Lurkee]

paulo are you returtled? you want them to retroactively ban people for wintrading who wintraded PRIOR to the warning about wintrading because somebody else got banned for character sharing?

[paulodjohn]

their is more then one case dumb dumb

[Huggles]

I understand the problem with win trading, but giving up against a better team that you know you can't beat is completely justifiable in my opinion. I don't like prolonging the inevitable. Not that Rat/Thorin did give up in an unwinnable fight.

Also, if it's win trading to lose, you should ban most of the teams that queue against us (Nibbles/Aft/Flipy).

[Moordenaar]

Originally Posted by Huggles

I understand the problem with win trading, but giving up against a better team that you know you can't beat is completely justifiable in my opinion. I don't like prolonging the inevitable. Not that Rat/Thorin did give up in an unwinnable fight.

Also, if it's win trading to lose, you should ban most of the teams that queue against us (Nibbles/Aft/Flipy).

And yet again. The ban was for toon sharing. Win-trading is what got him caught.

[Sanluciferr]

This is pretty sad, i just want to say this and hopefully people share my point of view... to whoever reported him for doing that needs to understand that he/she is a loser and does not deserve to win arena or do any better than ratspike/thorin. Reporting someone for sharing an account and calling it unfair not legit at all if you, if you are better than them you kill them regardless of who runs that toon.

I remember back then when me and paul said it out loud to everyone, not really reporting anyone just showing the community how some particular "champions" were fixing arena with clannies cause we could see how long the fights lasted and checed how the shield was equiped and pets taken away and etc, this in my eyes is pathetic and doesnt deserve any respect or merits at all.

If you are all about arena honor and who deserves and not to win Glitchless, you are being and hypocrite or just not really having a really understanding on whats really a problem, i understand the part of the rules... but rules are meant to be broken however a person that brakes a rules not necessarily lacks honor or is cheating his way to win. You could not share toons and still do more harm or lower moves to manipulate arenas like certain people did in the past.

To make it short, grow some balls reporters and beat your oponent even if he is a botter like a true champion and for Glitchless...make it fair... either black or white but not gray , you see it more harmful a person that shares a toon just to play than a person that really manipulates arena and bots pretty much.

I have seen people getting banned on 1 toon only for botting and his alts not getting bant, i have seen people getting bant in all his alts for botting even though he/she botted with only 1. I am well aware of the terms of use and basically you can do whatever u please and take any decisions no matter what the rest think or have to say..at the end pretty much depends on what kind of mood you woke up but you have no rights to talk about fairness or standards based on your past actions.

[Lurkee]

you've always been hypocrite san. it's ok when you and paul report people for wintrading but when someone else gets upset that somebody is fighting against THEIR OWN CHARACTER then they are loser.

typical do as i say not as i do. you suck san. and so does your posting.

[Sanluciferr]

Originally Posted by Lurkee

you've always been hypocrite san. it's ok when you and paul report people for wintrading but when someone else gets upset that somebody is fighting against THEIR OWN CHARACTER then they are loser.

typical do as i say not as i do. you suck san. and so does your posting.

Clearly you lack of comprehension. You can say whatever you want at the end you know more than anyone else what you are trying to do. I judge a respect person for what he has done or accomplished, yuo my friend cant call me a loser cause you are just fooling your self my little tiny lovely creature of the lord you are being an hypocrite and have nothing on me and you know it <3, keep doing what you r doing as long as it makes u feel better in ur life instead of realizing what u are. You are a perfect example of unfairness also based on all your posts and on rule number 1.

[Lurkee]

Originally Posted by Sanlucifer

Clearly you lack of comprehension. You can say whatever you want at the end you know more than anyone else what you are trying to do. I judge a respect person for what he has done or accomplished, yuo my friend cant call me a loser cause you are just fooling your self my little tiny lovely creature of the lord you are being an hypocrite and have nothing on me and you know it <3, keep doing what you r doing as long as it makes u feel better in ur life instead of realizing what u are. You are a perfect example of unfairness also based on all your posts and on rule number 1.

lawl I lack comprehension? I didn't call you a loser bucko, I was mocking you calling whoever reported him a loser. let me know if I can further explain any of the other points in my post.

[chloe]

hard to get better than someone when they have three or four people playing them, farming them and generally just being online 24/7. i know this isnt the case in the example, but some are.

also pretty sure krim got forum banned for antagonizing glitch, which i dont advise.

[Prometheus]

For the record, no one but myself has every played my toon. I have worked for almost 4 years to build up over 76B total xp, uptier the first r5 legendary piece of armor and max almost every trophy skill. None of those things guaranteed me a "Champion" status in arena. The teams I was on during each season simply ran into others that were more active and/or better. So...

You do not need to have 3-4 people play 1 toon to make it better than anyone else.

The arena seasons are long enough to mitigate the harm from arena fixing.

With current tc prices, it is easier than ever to get full lg gear.

If you dont have the best skills, level them. If you arent an arena champion, work harder and get a team that COMPLIMENTS each other. And find a way to get armors and weapons that you like. Do not blame class advantages, botting, or cheating for why you are weaker than another toon.
Cheaters should get punished, people who just want to play the game should not, and that is a fine line that has to be walked by admins who probably dont have the time or desire to pour over ip adresses and political chats from the last 4 years to determine who has malicious intent and who is just being ratted out by a bitter enemy.

[Gooddevil]

When people in Canada subscribing for Netflix they want to get US content which is better than Canadian version.

In order to do it there's plenty programs/servers/proxy's etc that can change your IP address so server "thinks" you are in USA and gives you USA content while you watch it from Canada.

How does it related to Nodiatis ?

If you own 2 computers you can change IP on one and create arena team then feed each other as much as you want and no safeguards will be triggered.
Technically you are not breaking rules - you play yours toons without sharing but 3 on desktop and 3 on laptop.

What might happen you log "desktop" toons on laptop and boooom !!! BAN ! you shared your toons !

I only hope safeguards in Nodiatis are more complex than just stupid IP check than never works and can work around.

This post belongs more in possible exploit section but I see its relation to current situation .

Glitchless ? Are you ready for this type of exploit ?

[Lurkee]

OMG glitchless people can change their IPs! Thank goodness gooddevil internet P.H.D. has alerted you to this!

[jacenty]

so sharing account is not rly bannable until is problem for others like trade win/loss on arena because someone reports it right?

[Fior]

Two years ago when i was in vacation in other countries i played my toons from there. Two, three different countries. I will do the same this year i think

[hotshot64]

Glitchless said they ban when sharing becomes a problem. Simple as that. You and your wife play the same toon? Cool, prolly don't cause enough of a problem to get bant (even though it's against tou). You and your nod friend share a toon to gain an advantage over others? Not cool, kiss your ass and say goodbye.

[concede]

I thought the sole purpose of arena was to distinguish the best TEAM.

How are we to determine that if half the top tens teams don't face each other because they have a toon on multiple teams?

We faced them 3 times and shut them down for the most part. No win trading and no different than 6 people controlling a team so they might be able to queue all day/night

I'm also curious where the multiple complaints comes from? Would it be specifically one team? If so that is only one complaint since it's a team match up. We win together or lose together

[Master]

Ive talked to many people today... Unless they are two-faced like a few others in nod, and I doubt that... Then I can say with confidence of course it was a particular team. most likely no one else.

Altho I am sure we will get a few of the natural trolls that will say that they also reported it when they didn't now.. I.E. Lurkee and the dude with the picture of a truck and some chick.

[TemariChan]

Originally Posted by Glitchless

There are safeguards put into place to prevent characters owned by the same people from fighting each other in the arena. When characters admittedly owned by the same person end up facing each other in arenas despite these safeguards because they are being controlled by someone on a different IP it becomes a problem. Whether or not the teams were trying their "bestest" is completely irrelevant. We made a promise to arena competitors that we would be very strict about any illicit activity taking place in the arenas and we are following through on that.

There's a lot of whining and complaining when someone or someone's friend gets banned, but not a lot of logic. We have been completely consistent about banning shared characters when those characters become a problem. Both the character sharing and the problem have been clearly illustrated.

Do not share your characters.

Glitchy, by what means and/or actions do you take when it comes to people, who I have known in the past, that are at a collage, who would have access to multiple IP addresses?