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04-27-2013, 07:34 PM
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Crab Defiler
Pearllife is offline
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Aligned / non-aligned
Why should not aligned be punished for something aligned clans are also doing
Last edited by Pearllife; 04-27-2013 at 07:58 PM..
Reason: changed mind
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04-28-2013, 12:01 AM
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Rat Slayer
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Interesting, It is not an exploit, and Un-aligned clans do it tough enough. I am pretty sure I know who it was . If you are over-encumbered and unaligned you will not be able to be forced upon for clan warfare. This is to prevent farming afk players without punishing aligned warfare seekers. This is an unfortunate pandering and deliberately mischievous example of an un-balanced playing field. Nothing New here
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04-28-2013, 12:02 AM
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Rat Slayer
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Poor PUNISHED Warfare seekers 
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04-28-2013, 12:16 AM
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The distinction should be obvious enough. It's very difficult for aligned clans to exploit this since anyone on the other alignment can find and kill the afk person thus locking out whoever was purposefully targeting the player whereas specific warred clans can use an alt clan and repeat the exploit to no end with no interference.
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04-28-2013, 01:05 AM
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Rare Collector
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Originally Posted by Glitchless
The distinction should be obvious enough. It's very difficult for aligned clans to exploit this since anyone on the other alignment can find and kill the afk person thus locking out whoever was purposefully targeting the player whereas specific warred clans can use an alt clan and repeat the exploit to no end with no interference.
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I dont particularly know how to say this in a non disrespectful way but... you are wrong. It's very easy for aligned clans to exploit this. Encumber an alt, raise guerilla warfare and leave them in a fairly remote place, like 1n 1w T2... then force them every 15 minutes while afk.... and if once or twice or 3 times another clan kills them, it's ok, they can die soon enough again because they're aligned...
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04-28-2013, 01:05 AM
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Crab Defiler
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Glitch this mean i can get really fat again and have someone from aligned clan come kill me and send me back to town? Just wondering so I know to stock up on gates recalls or just have people come kill me again.
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04-28-2013, 01:11 AM
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Seer's BFF
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im sooo confussed now... thought this was fixed for all clan battles to prevent the free Gating while encumbered exploit, was it needed again?
ohh nvr mnd i reread it and now understand the patch lol
hmm or do i? i thought the free gateing was fixed for all cb's before but guess not and this jus fixed nothing far as i can see o.0
more confussed then ever now
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04-28-2013, 01:21 AM
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Rat Slayer
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absolutely nothing obvious to me about the expoit explanation of this, nd dis-advantaging non-aligned clans, but thanks for confusing it further..still trying to see the justification
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04-28-2013, 03:44 AM
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Gem Pouch Expert
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as far as i understood it, non alligned clans could set an overencumbered alt next to a town for it to be killed over and over again and still remaining there without user having to move it. or even be online. this is now beeing prevented.
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04-28-2013, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felixandru
I dont particularly know how to say this in a non disrespectful way but... you are wrong. It's very easy for aligned clans to exploit this. Encumber an alt, raise guerilla warfare and leave them in a fairly remote place, like 1n 1w T2... then force them every 15 minutes while afk.... and if once or twice or 3 times another clan kills them, it's ok, they can die soon enough again because they're aligned...
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This is a fair point, however, it is certainly an added layer of inconvenience to either have to park the killer in a remote area or constantly travel there every 15 minutes. You'd simply be better off participating in real aligned warfare occasionally while farming as the system is intended.
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04-28-2013, 10:27 AM
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Boss Hunter
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so if my lizard brain understands this correctly...non-aligned clans cannot use an overweight alt any more...but an aligned clan can....this doesnt sound like a fair even playing field to me.... why should the aligned clans be allowed to use this exploit and the non-aligned clans are not? this means the owner of an aligned alt can set him outside town then close his/her browser and leave for the day and let the main clan know where the alt is and they can force all day and gain terr/dom...however this option has been taking away from non aligned clans...not fair imo.
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04-28-2013, 10:31 AM
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probably for the same reason your pussy ass won't join an aligned clan - because they're open to warfare from everyone else of the other alignment. stop whining for fairness. they got perks because they also have negatives. if you think being in an aligned clan is ez mode then be in one.
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04-28-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lurkee
probably for the same reason your pussy ass won't join an aligned clan - because they're open to warfare from everyone else of the other alignment. stop whining for fairness. they got perks because they also have negatives. if you think being in an aligned clan is ez mode then be in one.
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Your one to talk. Very helpful as usual
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04-28-2013, 10:46 AM
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Crab Defiler
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Lurkee is being rude and not adding any useful information to this thread therefore I believe his comments should not be thought of as important to this discussion and should be given a warning about his language in a public forum. And the next time he uses that kind of language he should be ban from the forum.
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04-28-2013, 10:53 AM
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Seer's BFF
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Whaa Whaa! I want everything the other guy has but I don't want to make the sacrifices he had to make to get it, Whaa Whaa!
i gave up trying to be nice to complete morons, there's no convincing anybody on forums. but you can at least piss them off.
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04-28-2013, 10:59 AM
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Boss Hunter
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well in the spirit of fairness then as soon as you get3x overweight make it so the toon cannot do anything for all. then the playing field becomes fair again....yes i know this will hassel the aligned players in that you could 3x your toon to stop a clan battle from happening.. but you can not do anything while you are 3x weighted so it becomes a waitng game then....and make it so you can queue on them so as soon as they do go under the 3x weight the cb happens no time to gate or step .
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04-28-2013, 11:02 AM
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Crab Defiler
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Lurkee, you are entitled to your opinion but you do not need to insult anyone or use vulgar language...
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04-28-2013, 12:38 PM
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Epic Scholar
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I don't understand what problem is being fixed or how.
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If they put a nice icon on you it's beneficial if they put a mean one on the other guy it's detrimental.
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The player was banned for using an exploit repeatedly without reporting it. There's only 1 proper way to profit off an exploit: report it.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay
For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.
Just repeat for multiple effects.
DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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04-28-2013, 03:03 PM
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Auction Master
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Before the patch you could 3x encumber an alt and leave them outside of town, close the browser and have someone farm them all day. This patch removes that ability for non-aligned clans since they are 1v1 wars. Aligned clans can still do it because there is the risk that someone else can kill the alt since it is an open war of sorts
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04-28-2013, 03:26 PM
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Crab Defiler
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Well un-aligned alts get pk'ed so how is that any different. Giving an unfair advantage to either aligned or un-aligned is the issue.
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