Bow and Staff

[Darkdingus]

Originally Posted by Oneangel

Much as i would love this to happen, I don't think this is a good idea. If casters need a buff, it is to the ability to defend against physical damage, not in the ability to either do more damage/healing etc.

I'd actually agree if casters weren't supposed to be the glasscannon par excellence.
If the trend goes on, and what you suggest is implemented, there eventually will be no difference between melee, caster or BM. Everyone will do just as much damage in just as much time while taking just as many hits. I don't think this should be a goal to attain.

Casters gain more DPS by having to be in front of the computer to gain anything from it. They basically have to kill their targets faster, because they're dead if they don't.
If you make them tankier, you remove that perk. All you need afterwards is an autocast feature...
- Now introducing Spellblade: Whenever you autoattack with a staff, there is an up to X% chance that the gem in your 6th slot is cast without removing it from play as long as you have enough manergy to pay for it. This doesn't activate the global CD. - I'd actually like something like that if the percentage is kept low.
- - To make this even less click-to-win, introducing "Improved Spellblade!" Depending on the level of this skill, you can Spellblade gems in the 5th down to the 2nd slot. - That would be overkill, but would make "passive casters" - i.e: casters that need just as much effort to get their DPS as other classes - a possibility.

[flipynifty]

Staff and shield and bow with no penalties except 600% reg boost bonus, i think that will work

[Murdoc]

why do you think i use it?^^
Still, 100 core casting stats is pretty damn decent, yoll have to admit.

[Huggles]

Not everyone has that staff, not every staff is like that. You're cherry picking facts to support your argument.

[chloe]

the point is people can have that staff

[chloe]

so you want glitch to release a crusher that has a proc *will kills target when struck* and what, say its balenced because not everyone has that crusher?

[Huggles]

Now you're implying that the Ebonbone staff is equivalent to a weapon that auto kills your opponent...

[chloe]

no, you were saying that a weapon that not everyone uses is balenced as not everyone uses it, the auto kill proc is just an over stated example of the stupidity of your comment. if you did not realise this then there is no point disputing anything with you as you will be blind to any comment.

[chloe]

and if you want to dispute the crusher proc, ill quote you and say

Not everyone has that crusher, not every crusher is like that. You're cherry picking facts to support your argument.

[Sanluciferr]

Yo, forget about it. go archer and problem solved. i assure u that a staff is not needed anymore and i will proof my point soonish.

[Darkdingus]

Originally Posted by Sanlucifer

Yo, forget about it. go archer and problem solved. i assure u that a staff is not needed anymore and i will proof my point soonish.

QFT.
I'm still DoTing my way into archery, but I'll soon convert.

[Murdoc]

You defend me on the forums chloe? ill have to siggy that :P
But yeah, everyone is free to get any gear they want. if you call it cherrypicking to get the best possible gear ingame, i guess half the server is guilty of doing it. and the other half is trying to do so.

[Excellence]

I didn't bother reading much, but Double Bond helps staves for the lack of bow stats and that, imagine healers with Heaven Shock Bow and stuff like that, too op

[Darkdingus]

Originally Posted by Nikolaaa

I didn't bother reading much, but Double Bond helps staves for the lack of bow stats and that, imagine healers with Heaven Shock Bow and stuff like that, too op

Double Bond helps anyone using a 2H weapon. It helps them compensate for the fact they lose 1 weapon slot, and that's it.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Darkdingus

Double Bond helps anyone using a 2H weapon. It helps them compensate for the fact they lose 1 weapon slot, and that's it.

^this

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Murdoc

You defend me on the forums chloe? ill have to siggy that :P
But yeah, everyone is free to get any gear they want. if you call it cherrypicking to get the best possible gear ingame, i guess half the server is guilty of doing it. and the other half is trying to do so.

Best gear? It's a staff that only has stats and no significant effect. You're ignoring the latter part and only looking at the large stat bonus, then claiming that because of that, all staff users have plenty of stats.

[Darkdingus]

What makes the legendary items worthwhile is the PROCS.
The stats are fluff.

Casters are left with 3 procs (I don't count arrows and quivers because their procs only help archers) less than every other class.

[chloe]

considering casters have the highest potential dps i really dont see why they need more.

please note, DPS means damage per second, and not the highest hit, while they may lack in the highest hit department, they can still fire off gems and do high crits with them faster than any other class. if you cannot do that then i guess you have a fail toon, and any argument for a buff is out the window, as you failed rather than the class itself.


sure you can get resisted, but thats where stats come in..... and funnily enough, your legendary weapons are STAT based.

i suck at being a hybrid and i suck at being a pure archer, but i dont scream for a buff, if you are struggling as a caster i suggest you look at your build or technique to why you suck, rather than just ask for a buff of OP gear.

stop ya belly aching and make a modification to your toon.

[Darkdingus]

Would I rather have 47% chance to doublecast instead of the stats a staff grants me (two legendary 1h pierce+bow)? Seeing as the normal maximum chance for doublecast is 10%... YES.

Seeing as doublecast basically means more chance to hit AND more potential damage, I'd rather have more of that than, let's say, 60 more CNC out of my already-sufficient 1K? Hmm... Would a crusher prefer 6% STR over 57% crit chance? Didn't think so.

[Oneangel]

Originally Posted by chloe

i suck at being a hybrid and i suck at being a pure archer, but i dont scream for a buff, if you are struggling as a caster i suggest you look at your build or technique to why you suck, rather than just ask for a buff of OP gear.

stop ya belly aching and make a modification to your toon.

If ya suck AND don't have a capped caster with all skills 100, lg suit and full epic pouch...maybe, just maybe your advice isn't the best.