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Old 01-28-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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As DoTs have become pretty awesome perhaps a new skill for tanks (shield users of all types) could help a lil with the crushing annialation of DoTs. Superior Cleansing/sacred defender is pretty good, however the countdown is where you get annilated. Perhaps a new epic skill to speed up the cleanse countdown?

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Old 01-28-2013, 08:47 PM   #2
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lvl one with nature and fire your bow vs dot teams and have a pouch u can switch to with just resist/mirror gems and a few taunts. life and death resist auras, stone and water etc... when all these options have been fully used and dots are still crushing in arena then maybe another skill would be needed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:40 PM   #3
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so basically trade little dps for less dps, unless one is to completely redo their build, tanks dont generally have high cnc/int and prefer str agi dex cnt to actually tank with
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:53 PM   #4
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lawl, HALP GLITCHLESS I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BEAT A GUY AND I DONT WANT TO CHANGE MY BUILD, new skill pl0x0x0x0x
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:57 PM   #5
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it was a suggestion, dd casters have deflect against them, what do DoT users have? A non staff user cant really change pouches and equip sets efficiently to be able to compete in arena.

and honestly... an epic defensive skill that speeds up cleanse cooldown? does that sound like a huge buff?
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he already told you what they have against them: one with nature. they already added the anti-dot skill some people are just too lazy or dumb to figure out how to use it.
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yes requiring one to be an archer... so putting all other builds out. gj on the suggestion
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:09 PM   #8
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You don't have to "be an archer". You have to shoot your bow as a tank. All tanks already have bows. All tanks are meant to tank, not DPS. How many different builds do you think should have some rapeface counter to DoTs? It's as dumb as somebody asking "oh god these tanks are too tanky, can you give me a skill so I can lower my cooldown on killing them?"
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:36 PM   #9
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Hes right... Lop has only 2 bow skills with anything over 1 level in it.... One in nature and bows... ,both are 100 and when i am against casters in arena i use bow.

Its a over looked skill
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im not saying its a bad suggestion, just until the other options have been tried its makes little sense to add a new defensive skill that may in the end be too powerful vs dots when combined with ones out there already. if they are still crazy op then is the time to ask for a new epic defensive skill. the idea of it reducing cleanse cooldown makes sense if this is needed in the future.
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Besides dots are underpowered as is everyone else in nod compared to BMs with armored.companions... Some good players in nod are actually leaving game because they get clan battled or arena insta killed.... If anything is un balance it is those pets.. IMO
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agreed about the pets...they are far more op than dots
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Sucks when your farming... Then next thing you know you are in a clan battle... Before your screen is done fading to even click attack the pets already insta kill you... If not you finally can see the screen and your already almost dead.... As you race to hit auto attack you cant because the pets also have you stuned and oh! Your bleeding for 10k in 10 secconds...... Finally if you can get a swing in and not dead at this point... The pets growl at you and you miss your hit.... But that is still ONLY if you are lucky enough to even get to see the screen before the pets insta kill you.
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u guys r seriously messed

honsetly slightly speeding up cleanse is OP? an epic skill that takes 10 trillion exp to maybe even half it?

ive watched the new skills and people bitch since day one, i know what will work and what wont, i dont feel that a tank should have less dps than it already does and should be a formidable foe in even 1v1 combat... ive made my own dot caster myself
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you're messed up. you want something for nothing. level your archery skills and stop whining. you won't have less DPS all the time, just when you switch to bow SPECIFICALLY TO SCREW UP A DOT CASTERS DPS.
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honestly DD casters are useless in PvP now least against a decent tank..so you want to make DoT casters useless in PvP too?
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by slightly speeding up cleanse... yes that will make everyone useless. trolls take it to unciv forums

k obviously you guys arent part of the OP arena team group (neither am i), go have a duel with cyress with your suggestions and see how it works for you.
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Loses an argument on the internet -> claims he was the victim of trolling
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:35 AM   #19
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haha u got trolled...

i want to see your definitive results of the strategy you promote. Lets see some real results here since you pwn the internet so hard
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The only way i would agree with this is if the timer was cut by maybe 25-35%. A 50+ % reduction would be too op and would put most dotters out of business when it comes to a tank that is built properly.

Those who claim that any reduction would ruin a dotter fail to realize that a dotters primary source of dps is more than ticks. their goal is to get those ruptures off asap. With that said a cleanse timer reduction will not prevent these ruptures, but only delay the larger ones. dotter could have every gem cast be an instant rupture should they be lucky enough.

In short, /support. If you find this idea to be unfair, then you either lack the perspective as a tank or are an underskilled dotter.

In all honesty, if you don't like this idea, then what would you do if i were to suggest allowing ruptures to be deflected? That idea is even more OP.
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