easy temper off season

terrorbladestorm · 10-11-2012, 05:48 PM

This is SOO unfair to the teams who worked hard to get 7x

elephantman · 10-11-2012, 05:52 PM

no sense spendig tokens until season ends then no restrictions. not a good idea imo

Master · 10-11-2012, 05:52 PM

bite my lip

terrorbladestorm · 10-11-2012, 05:53 PM

And no, I am NOT one of the top teams, I realize this will BENEFIT me. So I am complaining for the betterment of society.

Probably one of the worst updates in my opinion, without much thought put the whole purpose of those ratings. Just remove the rating things period glitch if your going to open tempers to all.

When something is not exclusive, it is devalued.

Misguided · 10-11-2012, 05:56 PM

not to mention everyone was under the assumption that you had to use your tokens before season started again, this shouldnt have been implemented at all, but at the very least shouldve waited til the new season began to put everyone on equal footing with how it will be

dislikes this

Border201 · 10-11-2012, 06:05 PM

I'd suggest making the first 5 teirs be unrestricted between seasons. having an extra 1300 to 1800 extra health isn't going to make or break a team that's trying to improve there standings in arena.

Thomas Jordan · 10-11-2012, 06:48 PM

What's the point of working to achieve a rating anymore?

Collect tokens, yes. Get into the top 100, yes. Get into the top 10, yes. Get into the top 3, yes.

Break 2,000, or 2,500, or 3,000? Why bother anymore?

Bad idea Glitchless.

terrorbladestorm · 10-11-2012, 06:51 PM

Agreed TJ.

Just remove rating now glitch. There is NO point. Whoever has the best win/lose ratio wins arena yay

paulodjohn · 10-11-2012, 06:52 PM

I waited 30 mins a fight to get 24 tolkens so I could temper x7. Now I find out that I have along with other top teams got the worst chance at tempering as much gear x7 as I can. maybe give more tolkens to teams who actually get over 2.5k and 3k and wait an age for a fight.

Lurkee · 10-11-2012, 07:16 PM

It's too hard for new teams to break into the arena with all the top guys and their uber tempered items. At least this way we can gear up a little at the end of the season and have a chance the next season.

concede · 10-11-2012, 07:22 PM

broke in to top 3 w/o tempers at the start of the season...considering i rerolled nautolan and used boon towards the start of the season any excuse is bs

Gurnison · 10-11-2012, 07:32 PM

I see both sides. People have worked hard to get high ranking and higher level tempers. On the other hand that tends to create dynasties, especially when combined with Legendary gear for the winners. Rankings in the current season should be based on performance in that season, not the previous season. If a top team can only beat another team because that team has lower tempers, then you have to question if they deserve to be a top team.

You shouldn't see any major increase in tempers by noob teams. It still takes large numbers of fights and ranking to get enough tokens to be significant. I know for me getting enough tokens for decent tempers has been the limiting factor, not ranking. Rank is far easier to get than several thousand tokens.

Just wish this happened a day earlier. Last night I wasted tokens on crap gear just to use it instead of lose it.

concede · 10-11-2012, 08:01 PM

right—yesterday i used tokens too. Now i'm short a x7 temper

Gooddevil · 10-11-2012, 08:07 PM

This was actually my suggestion and i think its good the way Glitch have it implemented.

There's only few teams who break 3000 rating which means there's hundreds of players who will never make it no matter how hard they work.

I understand frustration of top Nod players but this patch taking care of 99% Nodiatis population instead of 1% elite.

Now average joe can work his ass off whole season grinding 1 token at the time to actually get somewhere.

In addition lets say team didn't make it into first ten ... now they can switch gear , buy more legendary and try it in next season. And if its not working for some reason they are unable to change it on-the-fly (for example 2h grabbing new piercer and shield) if they wanna do it in same season they will have to wait for rating to temper it.

In other words this is great patch which opens opportunity to EVERY player even those who don't wanna compete in arena but can use extra hp for farming (which will come handy when we move to higher areas)

And for those who want to compete - you have ONLY one shoot to choose your gear, partners and tactics before season begin. And really those few hundred hp doesn't matter that much especially when most people cannot x7 whole gear anyway due lack of tokens or gold.

And stop whining people - this is great patch for long run. It will keep arena more alive and have tons of other benefits but I'm too sleepy to mention it atm.

Good Job Glitch !

hotshot64 · 10-11-2012, 09:06 PM

Whine whine whine. I like it.

Raith · 10-11-2012, 09:19 PM

Well I'm a player who doesn't have any kind of consistent play time on Nod. This means that I can either 1) make a team of myself and 2 alts, or 2) not be on a genuinely competetive team as we will not be able to consistently coordinate Arena times. So far, I'm doing occasional arena with alts, but this yeilds me ~x3-4 tempers because of rating restrictions. This update gives a player like me a chance to get higher tempers instead of penalizing me for not being able to coordinate with others.

On the other hand, I get the concern of people who worked hard to get something they believed to be exclusive to them, only to find someone like me with significantly lower rating could get the same.

So I see both sides. If balance decisions are being made with the assumption that people will use tempers to get higher HP, this is almost necessary. So I don't think this is totally a bad idea, but I get that it's unfair to some people.

Huggles · 10-11-2012, 09:29 PM

It's not like people have 20k tokens saved up for 7x tempers...I did arena for 6 months (I did do lower tempers earlier on) and I only have enough tokens for a single 6x temper.

I see both sides of it, especially the long time it takes to get tokens as queue times get long at high ratings, but it's also nice to be able to spend those extra tokens at the end of the season, even if it is for 1 temper.

austen · 10-11-2012, 10:54 PM

I like it, teams that fight all season will get a chance to get ahead, teams that start up at the end are just out of luck.

Nighthawk · 10-11-2012, 11:18 PM

I love this. I've had a couple of seasons now where I've wasted 3 or 4000 tokens on some of my toons as I already had all their gear at x5 and couldn't get high enough rating for x6. Now I can stop wasting those tokens.

Thanks Glitch!!

Fior · 10-12-2012, 03:18 AM

Good ideea between arena seasons or if this tempers doesn't work in arena. Players can use for higher places.