dk change

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can i ask why this was thought needed?

you adjusted already the highest ca to do more damage...which is why i thought CAs were in place...to add balance to the classes

now the max damage outweighs that of a wm and is comparable to a warrior w/ a boost to detrimental auras and pet damage

where a warrior has 3% more max damage to weapons and the ca does 450 damage with a useless mes?

i thought DK to be a very useful support class especially in pvp with sloth, devamp, and several others that were not as noticeable until now

[Master]

I agree with Con... You preach and preach "you know what you picked before you got the class" well, I picked WM because I wanted the best melee bonus... Now i find that I got screwed over on that....

Please fix.

[Raith]

Actually I have a Q about the 2-6% change... it now says to 'attack damage.' You telling me that the DK now gets 2-6% bonus to DD's or pets or ranged dmg also now? So... a DK is not only buffed beyond a WM melee bonus, but also a better archer (or whip-archer, or DD-archer) than a ranger is also? hahaha nice 'slight buff.'

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from how i understand it, you are absolutely correct Raith.

I hope i am misunderstanding

[Glitchless]

Never send a Mike to do a Jeff's job. We'll have this cleared up. Obviously there was no intention of having the DK bonus be superior to the WM one, there's a duplication of bonuses in the description that needs to be addressed.

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ty for addressing my concern and several others

[Huggles]

If I don't refresh nod will I still get the 6% bonus?

[Glitchless]

Originally Posted by Huggles

If I don't refresh nod will I still get the 6% bonus?

You never really got it, it was a problem with the wording, not the bonus.

[Huggles]

Aww.

[Huggles]

"The Dark Knight bonus now reads Dark knights begin with a 2% (up to 6% with class-enhancing skills) bonus to all melee, ranged and pet attack damage, a 7% (up to 21%) bonus to all detrimental auras, and a flat 3% bonus to all non-aura detrimental effects vs. player targets. In addition to more correctly describing the bonus this is a slight buff due to them now receiving a bonus to ranged and pet damage."

Did the DK class originally have the 3% bonus also affecting auras?

[StormGuardian]

Originally Posted by Huggles

"The Dark Knight bonus now reads Dark knights begin with a 2% (up to 6% with class-enhancing skills) bonus to all melee, ranged and pet attack damage, a 7% (up to 21%) bonus to all detrimental auras, and a flat 3% bonus to all non-aura detrimental effects vs. player targets. In addition to more correctly describing the bonus this is a slight buff due to them now receiving a bonus to ranged and pet damage."

Did the DK class originally have the 3% bonus also affecting auras?

It used to be 2-6% to melee, 7-21% to detrimental auras, and 3% flat to all detrimental effects and damage(everything?) to players, if I'm not mistaken.

That means the buff part is 2-6% to ranged/pets. And really a slight nerf to detrimental auras(no more 3% flat)...and now that I think about it, I'm not sure what all the last 3% encompasses...seems like things such as gravebound, and I would assume still damage/gems(non-auras, obviously)/pets/etc?

I could be way off, seeing as this is the most complicated bonus in existence, but that's how I'm seeing it.

[Raith]

I've never checked it on my DK, but I assumed it buffed weapon damage procs or non-aura-inducing gems (i.e. gravebound got 7-21%, a DoT gem, or the 89 crusher proc, or a poison bolt proc got flat 3%) and such. I would have thought pet damage or DD gems would be attacks and not effects, thus not gaining the 3% buff.

But I feel pretty lolz about a DK becoming a better archer than a ranger still.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by StormGuardian

It used to be 2-6% to melee, 7-21% to detrimental auras, and 3% flat to all detrimental effects and damage(everything?) to players, if I'm not mistaken.

That means the buff part is 2-6% to ranged/pets. And really a slight nerf to detrimental auras(no more 3% flat)...and now that I think about it, I'm not sure what all the last 3% encompasses...seems like things such as gravebound, and I would assume still damage/gems(non-auras, obviously)/pets/etc?

I could be way off, seeing as this is the most complicated bonus in existence, but that's how I'm seeing it.

I understand, I know what the DK bonus originally said, but not what it meant. I was wondering if the 3% not affecting auras was a change in the class or a change in the wording.

[Glitchless]

A change in the wording.

[Huggles]

Ok, thank you once again Glitchless. =)

[Huggles]

Another question: does the 6% affect DoT damage? What about the 3%?

[Glitchless]

6 no, 3 yes.

[Huggles]

Thanks. =)

[chrisdj]

I agree with raith, this makes the ranger class all but redundant !
while i'm here any chance gravebound will be available for ranged? I see no reason why a ranged toon should't be able to use this skill and would greatly help us against angelic bm's and healers

[Deathtoocome]

this buff is op