Melee

[hotshot64]

Long as they don't reduce my chance to block I'm fine with the current weapons.

[Huggles]

Epic gem
cost: 500k
max dmg: 20k

lg hammer
cost: 50m
max dmg with weighted, venge, and db: 10k

[Makaveliarts]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Epic gem
cost: 500k
max dmg: 20k

lg hammer
cost: 50m
max dmg with weighted: 10k

Lol

[Thomas Jordan]

Originally Posted by Master

with out reading one post in here im going to just assume people are crying.

Rather than trolling, you might try reading. You'd learn the first couple of posts are testimonials to the power of the new Legendary 2H Crusher. I have no idea what it's like for killing high level mobs and bosses, but it is far more devastating in arena than any caster I've ever faced.

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Epic gem
cost: 500k
max dmg: 20k

lg hammer
cost: 50m
max dmg with weighted, venge, and db: 10k

Your numbers are all wrong :P

The epic gem will cost more like 3 million, and a single shot with it is a max of 5k. In order to get a quad cast you must have a bp that costs around 10 million, and tons of luck to get that 20k quadcast.

As for the crusher, it costs closer to 30 million and can hit for around 14k on a single swing, 28k on a double.

So assuming single hits:

Epic gem: cost 3 mil
Max damage: 5k

Legendairy crusher: cost 30 mil
Max damage: 14k

The crusher costs more per damage point but can put out a bigger hit. It's all dependent on how you like to do things.

[Thomas Jordan]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

Long as they don't reduce my chance to block I'm fine with the current weapons.

Those things tore through Demosthenes like he was naked. He may not be the strongest tank in the game, but he's pretty darn good, one of the tanks requested by name for the Abyss by many casters.

Checking the tops list, they've only lost one match since two of them equipped those things, and that loss had to have been a fluke.

[Master]

FFS people.. caster LG stuff isnt out yet for one.

for 2, trojan can still kill anyone...

for 3 Piss off.

[Master]

eh, sorry.. dont piss off..

Im just getting bothered by all the fuss.

[beetdabrat]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

Your numbers are all wrong :P

The epic gem will cost more like 3 million, and a single shot with it is a max of 5k. In order to get a quad cast you must have a bp that costs around 10 million, and tons of luck to get that 20k quadcast.

As for the crusher, it costs closer to 30 million and can hit for around 14k on a single swing, 28k on a double.

So assuming single hits:

Epic gem: cost 3 mil
Max damage: 5k

Legendairy crusher: cost 30 mil
Max damage: 14k

The crusher costs more per damage point but can put out a bigger hit. It's all dependent on how you like to do things.

That's 14k with deathblow. So a 28k double attack when someone has 2k hp is only awesome if you have vampiric effects. Which is still nice for not costing any mana or energy. Also you can draw and cast gems as fast as 2 seconds from the cool down. A 2h on weighted takes about 6-8 seconds per swing.

Beet Da Brat

[chrisdj]

yep as a bow user i wasnt impressed with the 1st legendry bow even before the 2 hand crusher turned up! and glitch if you term the legendry crusher slow at what 37? then what do you call bows in general glacial???
At 47 speed the legendry bow sucks crusty toenails when the cap was 70 and bows ruled nod the massive slow draw of bows was a check balence to there dps and that was fair
since bows no longer rule nod and never have since 1st cap raise all those years ago, isnt it about time you bought bows in general back in line with two handed weapon speeds?
we are still the only main class that has no actual skill to speed up our hits and no i haven't forgot quiver aura or archery speed up rune or legendry bp and gem but lets not forget that the gem and quiver aura's dont stack! it seems we are being left way behind once again!

please glitch redress bows in general the slow draw speed the reason behind the penalty has long since vanished years ago!!!

And has been said we have to get 3 legendies to make the best we can be not just one! not to mention we have to spread our skill points so thinly over so many skills to even have a chance and our deffencive skills are laughable
im only basing this over the one legendry bow i've seen so far but looks like your going to screw us again same as you did with the 99 epics that are only slightly better than the 99 rare archery gear and not the massive step up the other 99 epics were for other classes compare the staff or the 2 handers to what you gave the bow sets and speaks for itself

blinding arrow is next to useless as doesn't really do anything but anoy throw a stun chance in with its max 10% of triggering
and exploit weakness has never worked the way it should either after 25 shots its supposed to do upto 25% more damage i've tested this out against tanks and bm's and never in any way shape or form has a bow shot exceeded my max crit even after 100 odd shots try it yourself!
oh and b4 you shout well level your skills blah blah blah flames i have 8 archery skills at 100 no archery skills under 95 and cant improve myself much more but wont stop till all at 100 !! i'm very stubbon

well there you have it bring on the flaming trolls!
oh as for class balences dont even get me started on how badly you nurfed us poor souls who you fooled into going down the shield archer role!

Hears the thunder and feels the earth shake on the advance of the massively flaming trolls!

oh and gratz to the crushers out there thats one weapon im really jealous of!!

and really sorry to turn this into an archery rant !!

[IDoRespectYaBro]

Originally Posted by Thomas Jordan

I'm the third member of this team. I went into the fight with 9.5k hit points and 3k armor. I was their third target after they demolished Ballrog and Demosthenes, and lasted maybe 10 seconds. As Ball said, it was as if all three of us were fighting with empty equipment sets.

What makes this interesting is yesterday we fought this same team (prior to them purchasing two of the 2H legendary crushers) and won all three fights; not easily, but we won them. This morning, they destroyed us almost as soon as the battle started. That's a heck of change caused by just one (ok, two, since two of them were using it) weapon.

I'm all for non-caster increases in performance, but that wild of a swing seems a bit extreme.

No, this isn't a "whine" by Ball or me. Just a heads up the 2H legendary crusher is the new nuclear weapon in Nod.

I heard the legendary 2h crusher was VERY OP But I didn't think it was that good.....Just shows that everyone should get one, then everyone would die. LOL

[Atropos]

ohh oohhh hohhh and Legendary Staff..... there has not been one yet..... dont think that will be any less weaker

yeah, but i still think there must be Lg staves in the future, but their bonuses must be focused not on melee damage, but casting bonuses such as gem haste draw or bonus gem damage, chance to hit with gems, double casts, bonus to colored gem effects, healing. :|

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Tale

Here's little something to comfort all the restless souls in this thread.
U all gonna be just fine with your new and shiny legend weaps cuz you are forgetting that there are still some whippers left and if anyone's gonna be screwed, its them as always

LG whips are coming

[xcasterx]

BM's will get screwed.

Can i assume that whips will be on even damage with all the other legendary weps? and pets damage will just be a bonus?

or are you really expecting us to collect four pieces to be less fail then we were before compared to crushers/casters.

Give BM's a hug glitch, we miss you.

[xcasterx]

Its also more fun when your main damage source isnt craftable.

[Raith]

Look, there are 15 sets of Leg. Weapons, each with 1x 1-hand melee, 1x 2-hand melee, a bow set, and a whip.

That means there will be 15 bow sets. Chris, I'm totally with you about how badly bows have had it since... well since fire and ice patch, honestly, from below average to worst-build-in-game and only back to viable (competitive, even, with DoT casters). But complaining after 1 of 15 sets just doesn't work.

There will prolly be, if things stay consistent, 5x 2H and 5x 1H of each slasher, piercer, and crusher. Saying one of the four (out of 30) found so far is OP is kinda duh. It's a legendary weap. Wouldn't you expect it to outclass the set of 99 Epic ones?

I understand that the 2H crusher is putting out OP dmg compared to non-leg. weapons, but isn't that expectable? Aside from telling the crushers who have whined for a while now about being 'not uber' when they are one of the few builds that has been consistently competitive since before cap was lvl70 to STFU, I am hearing a few ppl say "heads up, Leg. Weapons are way better than epic ones" and some QQ, plus some crushers QQing about the QQ.

QQ more pl0x.

[Deatharrow]

A lot of posts

[Atropos]

Does the bonus chance to hit proc of Solar fury lg weapon affect Kitting???