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Old 06-24-2012, 12:27 AM   #1
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Jeff you said the class's were more or less balnaced, then you brought out LG weapons, giving som hope that it may be true, at the same time you did face auctions to make a few bucks, now there have been no new LG's, the ones out are impossible to get, in part because the price's or resourses, and in a big way cause of how impossible it is to find those resourses. Higher zone fighting does not increase your odd's of finding them. Also buy introducing only 3, then giving up, you make what's needed for those even more overpriced. Not to mention the way to gain any LG weapon none crafted is just a pure luck thing, are you just tring to piss every one off?
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:15 AM   #2
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Damn, but this just sounds like a whinefest. Anyone got any cheese available ?

LG weapons ARE being crafted and sold. People can afford them. Unlike what you said

T30 resources ARE being found by people. Unlike what you said.



Oh, I get it now. Maybe you should re-write your post so it reads

"Glitchless, I'm not getting t30 resources, and I can't be bothered saving up gold for LG weaps. Make me uber plox"

That seems to be more accurate
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Old 06-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #3
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There is a problem with one resource...that is dye. This is because it is the only resource that is used to make every single item from a master to a tp. Since all items over lvl 89 other than pets must be crafted there is a mismatch in what resources are permanently in demand and therefore dye becomes increasingly rare and more expensive. Not to mention that the wealthiest crafters buy and hoard t30 dye on a daily basis. I am not complaining about what they are doing as its necessary for them to be able to continue crafting, but it does make it much harder for others to enter the market or even buy occasional t30 dye for personal use. I don't think this will change though so have started to train forraging on all my toons and would suggest doing the same to anyone that wants to be able to have a supply in the future.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:31 AM   #4
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Imo Nod recently became pay-to-win. The best items are only available to a select few with very fat wallets, and LG weapons are pure luck, both of these statements remove any need of skill, work, or tactics from gameplay.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:47 AM   #5
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I wouldn't mind if there was 1 LG beast per day because then the weapons would be gradually added into the game. But 3 in one month? It will take years to get LGs added.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:30 AM   #6
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relic didn't glitchless already pwn your ass enough in your original pay-to-win whine thread by pointing out that the #1 ranked arena team doesn't have a single member who paid anything?
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:41 AM   #7
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that is because they have the mains that give them the tc's. also the small fact that they had a small village playing them 24/7 in arena last season so they obviously just needed to have one maxed account that can farm out tc's then max another and repeat.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #8
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only reason why i have lg crusher is because i saved up since the day glitch said someday melee toons will have their day, then mentioned lg weapons... and boy did i pay too much!
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that is because they have the mains that give them the tc's.
Not quite. Pedro - for instance - is a main, not an alt fed by a main. But it has been acc't shared for as long as I can remember (as in, 2+ years), and one guy gets on, grinds all the time on both toons, sells enough trips to buy 2x new TC's, and leaves the time for the other guy to grind both toons, sell enough to buy more, etc. I never suspected him of botting his toon, but anyone who ever knew him knows that it has been one of a handful of toons that grind 24/7 because it is done by multiple ppl.

But in the end, Relic's point remains. A single person grinding his own toon without illegal acc't sharing and without illegal botting has 2 options: pay a ****load of cash, or be less powerful than the rest of the people. Glitch's 'counterexample' was someone who acc't shared. lolz is all I can say.

That doesn't mean that someone can't be intelligent, work really hard, come up with non-typical ideas, and - once every so often - end up with something that is at least moderately competitive. It just means that the second you do, someone else can drop a couple grand and buy the same thing, plus better up-tier gear, and put you right back into 2nd place.

INB4 Lurk trolls the whole thread with nonsense.
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Raith I thought your post was fair. I know about 5 people who have spent a truckload and still suck because you can't simply pay to win though, it takes either lots of farming or lots of cash combined with know-how. Relic has been butthurt ever since he came back that he's no longer on the top and he's just making excuses for why he'll never be back there.
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:54 PM   #11
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Ok first, the faster legendairy weapons come out, the less special they will be. Second, resource prices always change like that. Finally, I actually agree about the beast. The fact that it requires nothing but luck has been proven by the fa ct that one was killed by low levels because they happened to get a lucky spot in the queue. Nothing can be done by us about that though.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:03 PM   #12
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Sweet, the LG weapons are being crafted now. I'd like to order a pair of LG whips, who has that master?

I still would like to know how the LG pets will be crafted so that there may be a few to go around.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:35 PM   #13
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:44 PM   #14
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You need Pet Breeding skill level 100 to produce legendary pets.


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Old 06-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #15
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now there have been no new LG's
If the LG beasts shows up daily all the 100+ lg weapons will be found quite fast, imo lg weapon/beasts should show up once a week and i believe (havent kept track) that they do show up only weekly.

Resourcing high areas hardly ever wields T30 resources, i have been doing foraging and woodcutiing (level 100 foraging and 79.5 collection from foraging / level 100 woodcutting and 94.5 collection from woodcutting) and it has been ages since i pulled T30 of N lake heroic and DMV non heroic. But again if all high leveled resourcers would pull daily T30 stuff where would that market be? you collect and upcraft and you get T30 stuff, it takes ages but it is way more satisfactory to get it done yourself (or maybe im just dumb for thinking like that)

LG weapons cost a (uncivil)ton of gold/tc's but that can be aquired by patience and nod gold, noty necesarily account sharing or paying to win. (all my accounts can be only logged but never farmed by my fiancee) and i doubt i spend over 200$ for nod since september 2008 (yet i managed to purchase a LG bow at an insane price, ofc with some help)

It pays eventually to have patience then to rush into things heads on.

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What is "blanace" ?
Google can't translate that word.
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:43 PM   #17
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To weigh in on all this... We have no idea how many LGs are out there, so to speak. I like this weekly set up where we discover a new LG each week. Once all the "base" LGs have been discovered then I can see it be more reasonable to ask for an accelerated spawn rate of the LGbeast. Until that time though why are people whining so much?
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Hey, Felixandru,
i wrote here a post for all that have luck to recive legendary weapon : General Discussion --> Nodiatis Discussion --> Tip for those who get legendary weapons.

You said that bow cost very much. That because you have to pay those many TC's once.
But if, for example, u have to give just 10 TC's plus resources for consumable ? Next u get mats in time with no loan. Shouldn't be easier and maybe cheaper ?
Daca ar fi fost mai usor pt tine oare nu ar fi fost mai usor si pentru altii ?
If it should be easyer for you, would it be easyer for others ?
And maybe the seller should win more TC's than he won now.
Idk how many TC's cost, but i think not many players can pay so many TC's.
A lower cost could be payed by many, but prise can be highest for the seller.
Because of that i recommand those who get legendary weapon to dismantle and sell consumable instead of sell lg weapon.
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What is "blanace" ?
Google can't translate that word.
It is a misspelling of balance.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:41 PM   #20
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Hey, Felixandru,
i wrote here a post for all that have luck to recive legendary weapon : General Discussion --> Nodiatis Discussion --> Tip for those who get legendary weapons.

You said that bow cost very much. That because you have to pay those many TC's once.
But if, for example, u have to give just 10 TC's plus resources for consumable ? Next u get mats in time with no loan. Shouldn't be easier and maybe cheaper ?
Daca ar fi fost mai usor pt tine oare nu ar fi fost mai usor si pentru altii ?
If it should be easyer for you, would it be easyer for others ?
And maybe the seller should win more TC's than he won now.
Idk how many TC's cost, but i think not many players can pay so many TC's.
A lower cost could be payed by many, but prise can be highest for the seller.
Because of that i recommand those who get legendary weapon to dismantle and sell consumable instead of sell lg weapon.
Fernandez i have seen your post and i believe i had a small reply there not related, i do however think you are correct over your suggestion although it is hardly possible for anyone to make a TP of a lg weapon for a few reasons: the most common encountered is the lack of energy/mana to craft a TP, then the lack of materials to craft it (5 dyes 5 cloth and 5 or 6 dusts all tier 30) the cost of the TP Only would be easily over 10 TC's and it would take way longer time to be obtained due to lack of T30 resources needed in this type of crafting. Therefore who ever gets a lg weapon might not want/care/have time to invest in helping others to get the same weapon. As far as how many tc's my bow cost that is irrelevant since i paid it willingly and without being obliged by anything other then my own selfish interest. Bow crafting (fletching skill) is nowhere near level 120 needed to craft legendaries on anyone that ever played nod until now, so it would be another long wait. I may be selfish on this matter a bit but if i got something i know nobody can yet craft i doubt it would benefit anyone to have a copy of it. If you wish to speak your native language (assuming that is romanian from your previous line) you can PM me in nod on toon felixandru or rayaxe and we can communicate without english language getting in the way.
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