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05-27-2012, 12:51 PM
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Neophyte
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Armour Essence update
Hi all my first ever post on here so hope this is right :-)
Been thinking about the armour essence's that are on AH. There are a number of the same that are cheaper and cheaper and that don't appear to sell. There are obviously a few which will sell well but in general it looks like a lot arent in demand.
Thinking of ways that those who can craft them can get a better benefit ( I cant craft them by the way :-) )
Perhaps something could be added after the random essence has been created that allows the user to enchant with another t30 dye or resource to get another random essence.
It seems like everyone has stopped making armour essences as it costs too much when you invariably end up with one that wont sell or if it does wont cover the costs.
Would appreciate any feed back or additional suggests. Maybe even a resoure could be added when creating the armour essence so that there is no longer any random. This would bring things back in line since players can now get any t1 legendary's made for a price.
Thanks :-)
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05-27-2012, 01:22 PM
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05-28-2012, 03:09 AM
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Rare Collector
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This is a really good idea...no one is making armour essences anymore as there are too many types that are simply not sellable and with the cost of the resources to make essences often crafters loose substantial amounts of gold if they do. This means for those wanting to uptier already morphed armour, they can't. For those wanting morphed armour they can only get it from the one legendary crafter out there which causes more problems. Crafting uses dyes and the crafter needs so many dyes that there is a massive shortage of supply...driving prices up and up. Then there is the sad fact of having hundreds of hero essences and no armour essences to use them with. I still only farm in hero but have no idea why...no benefit at the moment.
The random element to crafting essences was fun when we had not discovered them all but now just causes issues. If you want to keep the random element to it allow us to re use in wanted essences. Crafting an armour essence should be possible in addition to the current way by adding a t30 dust and an unwanted armour essence.
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05-28-2012, 03:16 AM
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Should be able to dismantle essences so they'll randomly give either a t30 essence or dye. Or maybe they could give t29 essence/dye.
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05-30-2012, 04:50 AM
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That would be at least better than nothing...some way of using unsellable armour essences would really help. Can't sell some essences for 50k when the crafter used 200k dust and 275k cloth...nice reward they have for working so hard on their crafting skill.
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05-30-2012, 02:37 PM
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i agree.. or make it possible to craft the essences you want by adding an additional tier 30 resource like silk, ore, or plant. Without this resource the essence will still be random ofcourse
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05-30-2012, 05:20 PM
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I agree that there should be a way to change them since certain ones aren't really good/useable for certain classes, BUT...look at it from another perspective...
Maybe all the capped toons shouldn't follow cookiecutter legendary builds and instead try making their own combination suit...some of the ones that aren't being used are better than the ones that are out in mass...they just may not look/seem like it...
And to clarify again for the trolls, I'm not saying that EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is uber useful...I'm just saying a few that aren't being used SHOULD be...
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05-30-2012, 05:21 PM
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Boss Hunter
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05-30-2012, 07:21 PM
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I think a simple exchange might solve the problem of so many unwanted essences piling up. After you have accumulated a certain number of essences, you're allowed to swap them for the one you're really after. I'm not sure what that number should be, but if you have 8 or 10 Goldwing and Aliangel essences lying around, you can trade them all for the Raiden you really wanted.
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06-02-2012, 05:11 AM
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Another good suggestion 
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06-02-2012, 10:50 AM
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Neophyte
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great - im all for any change as at the minute since the ability to make t1 morphed legendaty's many have been put off of making armour essences due to cost way out weighing the benefits of being left with a 50 - 150k in most cases armour essence which is unlikely to sell.
some great suggestions hopefully something fair can be implemented soon to encourage those who can make armour essences to continue to make them.
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06-20-2012, 06:16 AM
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Rare Collector
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This issue is getting worse and worse...also since making any tp from a master requires dye there is a massive over demand on dye causing a boom in dye price. At nearly 350k per dye and 150k per dust it now costs about 500k for an attempt at an essence and when you cant sell most of the 12 essence types for even 100k you will only find unwanted essences on the ah.
Possible solutions:
Change it so it is not only dye required to make tps...ie. stop buffing forragaing and give other types of resourser a chance to enter the epic/legendary crafting market.
Let unwanted armour essences be recycled in some way...people have made good suggestions in this thread.
Ok...so why should anyone care when u can bypass all the hassle of buying dyes and farming in hero by paying a crafter 10 mil for an arm?
A t10 opal sleeve will cost approx 2.4 bil gold. To buy all t1 raidens at 10 mil a piece will cost approx 10 bil (you can buy a full t10 opal suit for approx 12 bil).
Anyway...rant over for now. I'm sure I will bring this up again in a month or 2 when dyes are 500k each and gem crafters will pay over 2 mil just to make a r20 tp.
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06-20-2012, 06:25 AM
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As gem crafter I hear what you are saying, making a r20 gem from master to actuall gem almost doubled in price . I get asked a lot and have to disappoint people with insane prices. My price for the koe r20 almost doubles thanks to this. I think each type of master ( i.e. helmets, weapons,gems) should have their own recipe to make them from master to gem.
Anyway my 2 cents bout this
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07-01-2012, 06:41 PM
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dyes now at 400k in ah...up 60k in 10 days. eventually someone other than me has gotta see this as inflating over the normal rate for nod.
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07-01-2012, 07:01 PM
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07-18-2012, 05:52 AM
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Berries now at 245k in ah...almost 500k per dye now, and it's still gonna get worse. This needs looking at.
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07-18-2012, 09:10 AM
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Same supply, new demand, price goes up. Prices changing are not an indication of something wrong. If anything it opens the door to more resource gatherers who would like to get a good price for their high end resources.
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07-18-2012, 10:54 AM
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Boss Hunter
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i agree, im no caster i depend on resources to make me rich
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