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[Nemesiss]

From: Nicole [@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:33 AM
To: abuse@nodiatis.com
Subject: Possible exploit


Dear Glitchless,

There has been a possible exploit that has been brought to my attention. Now, I am not reporting this on the forums for the simple fact that if it is indeed an exploit and you do something to fix it, there are going to be a LOT of very unhappy people.
I have recently learned that there are a handful of people who are generating 40m+ "new gold" every month, and not by using Max Coinage or PK farming/Selling trophies. They are doing this by either "acquiring" toons with all virts or creating new toons and putting all the virts on them and then putting a 10 day premium face on them, and then rerolling them. During the reroll process, they are able to generate around 4m gold on the toon between leveling the toon back up to cap and then taking it on a boss run from docks all the way to Fungi Forest. Now, I know you have a semi-safe guard in place that a toon can only be rerolled once a week. But, when someone is doing this with 2 or so toons a day and they now have an army of around 15 or so alts (it takes roughly 4 hours or so 'max' for a person with decent powerlevelers to get a toon back to cap) and that is all they are doing to generate income. Then your safeguard is really doing nothing.
Right off the top of my head, I can name 2 people who are doing this for 100% sure and that is Paulodjohn and Thorin/Ratspike (both of them have admitted this is what they are doing to make gold). Another person who has started rerolling all of his toons is Evillegend/Brama and I've been informed that he is currently working with Nemesiss and they are starting to do this "exploit" as well.
Normally, I would not take the time to report this. Normally, I would say "kudos" to someone for figuring out a way to get ahead. No, I am not reporting this because I am jealous and think that out of spite to others something should be done. I am reporting this because if what I have been told from multiple different sources is true, and this is how people have been "getting ahead" for a while now...well, truth be told, it's not fair to the honest player who only has 2 capped toons and is trying to make their way in the game without finding and exploiting loopholes. I know of a lot of people who only have 2 or 3 toons, who spend all their nod time grinding those toons and selling trophies just to make a little profit and can not in a month even begin to generate what all these people are generating in a day, let alone a week.

If you decide to let this 'exploit' stand, that's fine. If you don't that would be even better (and I have no idea what you could do to fix it :/) Either way it goes, it is your game and ultimately your choice.

Sincerely,
A loyal rwk/nod player for 7+ years,
Hopilus



next try getting your **** right and not accusing people thats never exploited anything when you know very well its your own damn clannies and whoever else actually doing it

[Master]

I find this rather interesting seems how the last re-roll i did was with ratspike over a year ago, Which glitch can easily see.... And I never said such things.. I hope you didn't get anything for your lies. Oh and thorin also hasn't re rolled in what? 2 years? What a joke you are. And to think I have helped you and was nice to you... You really blind sided me with this failed attempt to make me look like a Jack@ss

[paulodjohn]

I know 100% that paulodjohn has never once done this. and would prefer people not lying about him. Also trojan/LD I know it was one of you who said I did it to hopi. I dont know why. I hope no other bull**** like this has been emailed in private to glitch about me that is nowhere near the truth

[Nemesiss]

she got 50 tc's for this

[Master]

I think its her fail attempt at trying to receive free tcs or trying to make OP toons get in trouble that way she can win arena.. Im sure glitch looked into this and called her out on it.

[Nemesiss]

From: contact@glitchless.com
To: 1@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Possible exploit
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:40:44 -0500


Thank you for the report, you will get 50 TCs for this report. Please let us know what character you want them on.

Mike
Customer Support
Glitchless, LLC

[locurasbeach]

Omg this exploit was so high exploit that 50 tc's seem even low to me. Well done hopi, i understand paul's point, maybe not sending names anyway glitch could have figured out that the exploit was possible.

But well done!

[paulodjohn]

No send names away go ahead. JUST SEND THE RIGHT ONES. like her clannie.

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by Nemesiss

she got 50 tc's for this

I am willing to bet you that she shared the 50 TC's she got with Cyress/ripple/Zephier after the 3 mentioned toons have made the said milions of gold from boss reroll farming. I am not paranoid enough to screenie things but i was told by one of the 3 that they make a living this way months ago. I thought it was nice, and no harm done to people generally, never thought to report it because i dont care if they found a way to make gold what ever way. It is still work to get the right PL'ers to get the tc's for accel/virts and to cap the toons... But the fact that hopi reported it makes her a complete hypocrit for the reason that she reported completel innocent people, and "forgot" to mention the ones that actually did it. Also as a footnote, not that it might matter much, all the people she reported, Paulodjohn, Nemesiss, Thorin on Ratspike and Brama on Evillegend have been memebers of TDA before she made this report and left TDA before she emailed this. The toons i mentioned, Zephier, Cyress and Ripple with a mulitude of alts, 90% of clan Ntell is formed of these 3 and their alts, have been rerolling toons for months and stayed in TDA, that is why they do not show up on the list of reported people. I doubt it is fair for opilus to get TC's for reporting only SOME people that left her clan and "hide" the ones that are still there .

My opinion is she should be revoked the "reward" and that is all. Also the bosses droping items after reroll helped many people get some gear on their toons in between level 1 and cap (of they speed cap) but it can be obtain easily buyinh items for social in AH

Thank you for listening to my rant and happy farming

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by paulodjohn

I know 100% that paulodjohn has never once done this. and would prefer people not lying about him. Also trojan/LD I know it was one of you who said I did it to hopi. I dont know why. I hope no other bull**** like this has been emailed in private to glitch about me that is nowhere near the truth

I'm told they were eavesdropped upon. On another note, I'm curious how you got a hold of these emails and if it was remotely legal.

[Ripple]

I have no TC's from this but would like some please.

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

I'm told they were eavesdropped upon. On another note, I'm curious how you got a hold of these emails and if it was remotely legal.

Has it ever occured to you that glitch might have sent the entire convo to neme? as a confrontation? or that he might have had hopi's email password? none of my suggestions on the topic are illegal, and the fact he has them they have been sent to him somehow

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by Ripple

I have no TC's from this but would like some please.

Sorry rip, if you are not involved in this i appologise, was not meant as an attack to yu, was just trying to clear things out with hopi's "report" and it was just as assumption, unfounded one, that you might have benefited from it.

[Nemesiss]

none of your concerns how i got it

[terrorbladestorm]

I am not going to take sides or express my opinion on this matter BUT i have a question on logistics.

Boss drop before lvl 50 are pretty much worthless **** that are worth like 2k each. Only about 30-40 bosses are between lvl 50-Fungi forest. In these 40 bosses, drops are usually worth around 10k-80k, with the average that each drop is maybe worth 30k-40k gold. (Even this is a generous estimate)

So you ahve 40k times 40 bosses=1.6m (A generous estimate)

Where did that 4m estimate come form?

[Sanluciferr]

hmmmm...

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by terrorbladestorm

Where did that 4m estimate come form?

Gold from chests? especially since bosses drop a lot more gold then normal mobs...

[terrorbladestorm]

50 chests, lets say EACH chest was a gold rush of 20k. (which is again super generous estimate because these toons won't have max coinage, language skill, or whatevers. also the bosses before lvl 70 can't drop 20k grushes , or are very rare)

1.6m+1m = 2.6m

Still don't see where 4m came from. Note that my numbers are all generous, in reality u will probably get 1.5m max from this exploit* every week

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by terrorbladestorm

50 chests, lets say EACH chest was a gold rush of 20k. (which is again super generous estimate because these toons won't have max coinage, language skill, or whatevers. also the bosses before lvl 70 can't drop 20k grushes , or are very rare)

1.6m+1m = 2.6m

Still don't see where 4m came from. Note that my numbers are all generous, in reality u will probably get 1.5m max from this exploit* every week

Picky much? eesh... there's a lot more then one boss fight when leveling up you know... like all the fights you have to actually level to get to cap... ever heard of static boss farming? many many many ways you can get to 4 mil gold ...

[terrorbladestorm]

So you are saying, these BOSS rerollers Had to do work to get their 4m?? Wow I thought the exploit was that they didn't have to do much work and were getting 4m. Again I don't care either way about who was involved, I just want to clear up this math issue.


I just don't think the math adds up, its been bloated out of proportions. Ever get sleeve or leg drops that are worth 12k ea at high lvl bosses? Or 200 gold for multiple boss fights?