New pk rules

[hotshot64]

I know they won't solve the setup pk issues, but they might make it a little harder to do setups.

1. You cannot receive a pk bonus from killing a character that your IP has ever logged.

2. You cannot receive a pk bonus from a character you have already pk'd this month. This applies to the entire IP as well, to avoid exploiting multiple alts.

3. You cannot receive a pk bonus from pking a character below your level range.

4. You cannot receive a pk bonus from a character that forced on you. You must have the balls to find your own victims for the bonus.

5. You must pk a minimum of 3x your level in characters in one day to receive a bonus. For example, at level 70, you must pk a total level of 210 in any combination to include 3 level 70's.

6. Trophies from the pk bonus will now be sb.

Obviously a main reason for the prevalence of setup pk's compared to real ones is the fact that there is a big bonus, and it's much easier and safer to kill a naked level 20 alt than to go out and find real victims that fight back. I can understand that the temptation to cheat is irresistable, and I also understand that it will be impossible to completely stop setup pk's as long as there's a bonus. However, no matter what you do to stop the setups, you still need to encourage the real ones if you want pking to still happen at all.

I personally think PVP doesn't need rewards so I haven't been able to think of any ways to encourage it. However, I'm certain the small handful of people who don't flame the absolute **** out of this thread can come up with perfectly acceptable and innovative ideas, so have at it.

[Thesin]

All of these ideas are good apart from #2.

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Thesin

All of these ideas are good apart from #2.

Thanks for the input, and I feel I should clarify: while I think the combination of all of these would be the most effective, I'm not suggesting they all get implemented together. Rather, they're all separate suggestions that might help.

[Roo]

2 is bad. 5 needs work. Others are okay.

[hotshot64]

All of these are bonus modifiers. None of them will prevent you from pking someone to steal their items or send them to town.

[austen]

i like

[Makaveliarts]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

I know they won't solve the setup pk issues, but they might make it a little harder to do setups.

1. You cannot receive a pk bonus from killing a character that your IP has ever logged.

Agree

Originally Posted by hotshot64

2. You cannot receive a pk bonus from a character you have already pk'd this month. This applies to the entire IP as well, to avoid exploiting multiple alts.

Disagree, not enough victims IMO ( At least in my level range)

Originally Posted by hotshot64

3. You cannot receive a pk bonus from pking a character below your level range.

Agree

Originally Posted by hotshot64

4. You cannot receive a pk bonus from a character that forced on you. You must have the balls to find your own victims for the bonus.

This should not make it harder for Legit PKer's to earn the PK Bonus so I agree

Originally Posted by hotshot64

5. You must pk a minimum of 3x your level in characters in one day to receive a bonus. For example, at level 70, you must pk a total level of 210 in any combination to include 3 level 70's.

Agree

Originally Posted by hotshot64

I personally think PVP doesn't need rewards so I haven't been able to think of any ways to encourage it. However, I'm certain the small handful of people who don't flame the absolute **** out of this thread can come up with perfectly acceptable and innovative ideas, so have at it.

[/QUOTE]

I feel that their should be a PK Bonus, but it should not be obtained without really PKing. Then again, the people who do it the easy way are still taking a risk and could potentially be PKKd.

[Darkdingus]

As everybody already stated, I agree with everything but #2, but for a separate reason: How is a PK supposed to remember who he killed and which character is who's alt?

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Darkdingus

As everybody already stated, I agree with everything but #2, but for a separate reason: How is a PK supposed to remember who he killed and which character is who's alt?

It only prevents you from getting the bonus. Meaning a real pk who does sprees will kill random people, not the same character every day like a setup pk does. It could be made into once a week rather than once a month, or something similar.

[Crusher]

2 and 5 really dumb lol .. so basically ur makign it hard for pk's to do anything i agree but defently not with 2 n 5

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Crusher

2 and 5 really dumb lol .. so basically ur makign it hard for pk's to do anything i agree but defently not with 2 n 5

For the 50th time, this is purely to prevent setup kills for the 3x bonus. You would still be able to pk anyone you can pk now, you just wouldn't get the bonus for certain kills. A spree pker should be able to find 3 victims a day if he really wants the bonus. And anyone who isn't pking purely for the bonus will be unaffected.

[Darkdingus]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

It only prevents you from getting the bonus. Meaning a real pk who does sprees will kill random people, not the same character every day like a setup pk does. It could be made into once a week rather than once a month, or something similar.

Someone that goes on sprees will have more and more trouble finding someone he hasn't killed yet.

I'd add an option to let the PK have his spree, but have his kills recorded up to a cap (pay for the bonus "in advance", if you will)
- The rest of the post is a nerf to PKs that want to have the bonus to have better and longer sprees. The above buff would be a nice addition. Hey, if you're going to record the IPs, make it count and let the PK add them up (to a cap, ofc - 3-5 days seems reasonable)

[Roo]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

For the 50th time, this is purely to prevent setup kills for the 3x bonus. You would still be able to pk anyone you can pk now, you just wouldn't get the bonus for certain kills. A spree pker should be able to find 3 victims a day if he really wants the bonus. And anyone who isn't pking purely for the bonus will be unaffected.

You aren't very open to constructive criticism. I agree that there should be some incentive to kill, be it 3x bonus for a few days or whatever, but 3x your level EVERY DAY is a little unreasonable.

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by raperoo

You aren't very open to constructive criticism. I agree that there should be some incentive to kill, be it 3x bonus for a few days or whatever, but 3x your level EVERY DAY is a little unreasonable.

Actually, I appreciate every answer that's been posted here. Number 5 is somewhat unreasonable but the fact is the bonus is an incentive to go kill PEOPLE, not alts, which is why I made the suggestion so harsh. Number 5 might be a bit unnecessary though.

[Huggles]

support all but #2

[hotshot64]

Bump

[Crusher]

bump alot of people would go pk id love it

[Iceblood]

No support here. Not on any specific idea, I'm just in the camp that thinks there's hardly any pk'ing in the game and should find ways to encourage greater participation, not discourage and seek to further limit the amount of pk'ing happening in the game.

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Iceblood

No support here. Not on any specific idea, I'm just in the camp that thinks there's hardly any pk'ing in the game and should find ways to encourage greater participation, not discourage and seek to further limit the amount of pk'ing happening in the game.

None of these prevent PLAYER KILLING, they prevent setup kills for the 3x trophy bonus. You would still be able to kill anyone you can kill now, you just wouldn't get the 3x bonus for killing certain people (namely alts)

[hotshot64]

Added another rule, which I think would work alone and prevent the need for the others.