Hadouken!

[Huggles]

Blue gems suck. I don't mean blue gems in general, I mean in terms of damage. But then again, stun/daze/mes gems suck too. For the amount of time they stun, you're wasting your mana and energy.

Blue DD gems do laughable damage. While they are minimally for people with low int who only cast as a slight DPS bonus, they are useless in the world of casters.

There are no Blue DoT gems.

So then, what are they good for? Balance, Manaburst/Cantrip, Derinium...that's about it.

Why not bring blue gems out of obscurity with the introduction of a new (epic) gem.

Similar to Hadouken, this gem would do damage to the enemy and cause 'knockback'. Essentially, it would provide a small stun effect in addition to the gem damage.

[Nurvus]

I will agree that the recastable Blue DD gem should have less Delay, but other than that, they're not that bad.

I'll agree that blue gems seem better for non-casters due to Replay.
The focus of Blue Magic isn't DD.
Neither is the focus of Grey Magic, wich also has sucky DD gems.

But have you tried playing a Magician, or Enchanter?
What do you think a good strategy with them is?

Have you tried Incidental Redirection or Discouraging?

Alot of strategies are underestimated in this game.
And alot of stat distribution is subpar.

[Sanluciferr]

Test it out or at least ask people to find out please.

I killed 99 boss solo with only a blue pouch and heals(white) dps are as fast as your fingers can be ( no homo).

If i am not mistaken blue has the most gems in the game also....Balance, Manaburst/Cantrip, Derinium, Daze, Mesmerize , Stun, Reflections, Incidental Redirection, Mental clarity, Enemy /Friend draw clone, Damaging cantrip, Taunts/Retaunts/Provokes/Challenges, Apocalypse, Fog, Quake,Dds, Gem haste,Discourage jeweling, Flood, Gem plunder, Borrow gem and another that i dont remember the name that u sacrifice/exchange hp for mana.

Yea i hope im not missing any gem... just to let u know, Blue is full control.
Please dont try to make all the colors similar or all the builds similar cause thats not strategy... just like Nurvus said on his/her last 2 sentences.

[Nurvus]

Yeah, and you can pretty much skip Int as a Blue Magic caster, allowing you to invest in other stats.

And the Stun/Daze/Mes'ing Gems are awesome. Just learn to use them properly

[thatperson]

not true nurvus int does boost blue gem damage up to 1.5x

@ OP im with san blue DDs have potential as the fact they can be drawn insanely fast compared to every other DD

blue DDs are like a machine gun lower damage fast rate of fire
red DDs are like a rocket launcher

you cant compare the 2 on the exact same grounds

[Nurvus]

Doesn't make me wrong.
You can still skip Int - the "normal" blue DD damage is "guaranteed".
You aren't affected by randomness like other colors.

You can surely boost it further to 1.5x, but you can use the Int needed to do that in other useful stats for other strategies.

[Huggles]

San, I really made this thread because of my own experience with blue gems, and your forum siggy. Your signature essentially says that it's not worth getting 100 blue magic. I thought that if somebody of your experience, with 100 blue magic says that blue gems aren't good, they aren't.

Furthermore, here is a list of blue gems which in my opinion suck:

-Fog/Quake/Flood/Apocalypse- When used against a caster, it takes the caster very little time to redraw gems, coupled with a crippling blow to your mana and energy. Also, if you don't use Apocalypse, and use Fog/Quake/Flood individually, you need over 1000 mana and energy (before skills) to remove all your enemies anti mes stun and daze gems. For a caster this may be possible, but for any non caster these gems would just use too much mana with not enough reward.

-Stun/Daze/Mes- At lower levels, the rank 1 and 2 gems can be deadly in the hands of a skilled caster. I have seen this. I have done this. But at higher levels, the mana and energy required to cast these gems increases exponentially, while the time of the stuns dazes and mes's increases very little, geometrically. Furthermore, these gems reduce how many DD gems you can draw and use, thus actually reducing your DPS while using a lot of energy and mana. And there's an even bigger catch- they're almost useless in PvE- sure it may be fun to keep a mob stunned and mes'ed and dazed while you bash it with your staff and a few DDs, but it's not practical for kill speed. And even in PvE, you would only use these types of gems to stop a person from taking actions, and someone else would be applying the damage.

[Sanluciferr]

I didnt read everything just the part of 100 blue, the reason of why i said that about my siggy is because at that moment i had only 1 reason to push it to 100 and it was gem haste aura, but 2 weeks after they modified and epic items ( some 99s) and the staff god buffed and i regret to do that nasty 99 lvl for something that wasnt even worth it anymore , why? cause the staff could do the same and without using a gem space...(on the group part the gem haste still cool though)

Was just a way to express my concern about something since i could have gotten the 99 staff like days before the patch and i decided to dont and instead i lvl blue...

Just minor inconveniences that happen when you make decision based on what it was and then things change....

Back to ur main concern, remember that blue gems r also boosted by inferno ( which boosts red too).

[Nurvus]

Remember you get major cost discounts with staves & maxed blue magic.

Blue gems are about very quick gameplay.
About non-damage blue gems taking potential DD gem slots, remember Replay gives you an instant draw 50% of the time.

You can effectively place a 4 sec stun in play (replay can draw another gem), use the stun, and now you have 4 sec to do something while your character is auto-attacking/shooting - perhaps u draw another 4 sec stun or a a DD. Perhaps you draw a DoT and it procs Intoxicate once you use it.

And about it not being a PvE thing, you're not right either.
Imagine that instead of healing, you have stuns, dazes and mes'ing. What damage will there be to heal?

You might actually end up with better dps overall if your character/team is well built.

[sergiords]

I am a magician and did not understand well the advantages of using the blue gems. It was very useful to read the forum. Thank you.