Post Legendary Armor Patch

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by thatperson

u know by finding and selling those materials you used to get 99 armor you could have gotten enough gold to obtain legendaries? 99 armor costs about as much to craft as legendary do to buy

Wrong.

A legendary sleeve is something like 2.5m gold.

You may think that t30 dyes can sell for 350k, even 400k. You would be wrong. Most dye sellers are lucky to get anywhere near 300k for a t30 (even as I type there are t30 dyes for 280k). Let's assume that I could get 300k per dye. At the most, I needed 6 dyes for a sleeve/leg. That was 1.8m gold. The resins, cloths and bone all came to around 400k.

Now, I was always useless at mathematics, but even I can see that adds up to 2.2m gold.

The cost for making the leggings is cheaper, but the legendary legs are 3.5m (a disparity of 1.5m+). The 99 bp and helm also cost around the same 2.2m gold.

Basically, an epic 99 suit would cost just over 13m (although, it cost me a lot less) and a legendary set costs almost 24m.

To put it another way - Wrong!

[thatperson]

oh my bad i didnt realize there were only enough t30 resources in the game to make 1 99 sleeve and 1 99 leg i didnt know u couldnt get anymore than that ever

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by Sanlucifer

Pretty much all the top 10 teams left arena and do not care about winning cause its time consuming and a waste of gold, when we can just keep farming and getting legendaries, in other words... Arena prizes need a change, asap.

Good maybe my team will have a chance now :P

[Sanluciferr]

Originally Posted by Lurkee

boo hoo
look at the cry baby who already won a season and has his 99 epicz whine about how the arena rewards aren't currently the best items available in the game. who cares if the the top ten teams really did leave the arena which i doubt they did - maybe some people actually doing the arena for glory and not as a means to get gear will duke it out at the top.

Glory? lol are you mentally retarded? this is the internet and i dont think you have any idea how expensive is to be number1 or time consuming so your opinion is based on envy/hate instead of facts and reality.

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by cleanprophet

Wrong.

A legendary sleeve is something like 2.5m gold.

You may think that t30 dyes can sell for 350k, even 400k. You would be wrong. Most dye sellers are lucky to get anywhere near 300k for a t30 (even as I type there are t30 dyes for 280k). Let's assume that I could get 300k per dye. At the most, I needed 6 dyes for a sleeve/leg. That was 1.8m gold. The resins, cloths and bone all came to around 400k.

Now, I was always useless at mathematics, but even I can see that adds up to 2.2m gold.

The cost for making the leggings is cheaper, but the legendary legs are 3.5m (a disparity of 1.5m+). The 99 bp and helm also cost around the same 2.2m gold.

Basically, an epic 99 suit would cost just over 13m (although, it cost me a lot less) and a legendary set costs almost 24m.

To put it another way - Wrong!

at first:

Originally Posted by Smashbros

as the legendary isnt much more expensive.

read the red part.

yes legendary costs more, but it isnt a huge jump per piece that you want.

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by thatperson

oh my bad i didnt realize there were only enough t30 resources in the game to make 1 99 sleeve and 1 99 leg i didnt know u couldnt get anymore than that ever

Your problem is that you never think before you post - ever.

To say that it costs the same to craft 99 epic suiting as it does to buy legendary suiting is completely wrong.

The other problem you have is that when someone points out that you are wrong, you become some pathetic, sarcastic 10 year old.

You're wrong (again). Get over it.

[Lurkee]

Originally Posted by Sanlucifer

Glory? lol are you mentally retarded? this is the internet and i dont think you have any idea how expensive is to be number1 or time consuming so your opinion is based on envy/hate instead of facts and reality.

even if i had no clue as to how long it takes or how 'expensive' it is it wouldn't change the fact that many people participate in the arena simply to be #1 - not for a mere item upgrade.

unfortunately i haven't been keeping up with arena drama but i see faith's team is #1 right now... did you start out in the season and then grow butthurt as things didn't pan out for you or were you absent the whole time?

[Sanluciferr]

Originally Posted by Lurkee

even if i had no clue as to how long it takes or how 'expensive' it is it wouldn't change the fact that many people participate in the arena simply to be #1 - not for a mere item upgrade.

unfortunately i haven't been keeping up with arena drama but i see faith's team is #1 right now... did you start out in the season and then grow butthurt as things didn't pan out for you or were you absent the whole time?

lol i dont understand, probably is my lame english but the answer is no to both.
My comment was actually just to let Glitch know about arena prizes since he said later on he would change arena prizes and even for real cash maybe, so i thought since legendaries is the way to go almost ( in most of the cases) for as cheap as 99s... ( and way better) that probably now it was the time to change prizes.

I have no clue why you went so emo on me but it makes me laugh, keep it up you help a lot.

[thatperson]

Originally Posted by cleanprophet

Your problem is that you never think before you post - ever.

To say that it costs the same to craft 99 epic suiting as it does to buy legendary suiting is completely wrong.

The other problem you have is that when someone points out that you are wrong, you become some pathetic, sarcastic 10 year old.

You're wrong (again). Get over it.

all i said is u could sell the mats u used to craft the 99s which means omg u could sell those t30 resources and buy legendaries instead of complaining you would never get them :O


oh yea and a 10% fluxuation in price qualifies as about the same in my book jsyn

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by thatperson

all i said is u could sell the mats u used to craft the 99s which means omg u could sell those t30 resources and buy legendaries instead of complaining you would never get them :O


oh yea and a 10% fluxuation in price qualifies as about the same in my book jsyn

All I'm saying is, don't say something that is inaccurate and has no validity.

As for the 10% fluctuation. I did explain how legendary costs 100% more than the 99 epics cost to craft. Even if the epics cost 10% more, they would still be almost 10m cheaper to obtain. You need a new book

[thatperson]

ok my bad u used the cheapest to craft epic and expected it to compare the the legendaries now figure the cost for the BPs the sleeves the helms im pretty sure 90% of those are close the the price of legendaries (the sleeves u figured for 300k difference)

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by thatperson

ok my bad

[Smashbros]

cleanprophet i would like to point out, that Faith was selling his BP for 50% of what it cost him to make it, i believe he sold it/is selling it for ~4mil. which means he paid 8mil for it, which is more then legendary gear

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by Smashbros

cleanprophet i would like to point out, that Faith was selling his BP for 50% of what it cost him to make it, i believe he sold it/is selling it for ~4mil. which means he paid 8mil for it, which is more then legendary gear

lol

Well, more fool him. Just because one person paid a ludicrous price, doesn't mean that is a standard price.

He will do outstandingly well to get 4m for it - especially now.

[Sanluciferr]

Originally Posted by cleanprophet

lol

Well, more fool him. Just because one person paid a ludicrous price, doesn't mean that is a standard price.

He will do outstandingly well to get 4m for it - especially now.

Clean , i dont like to make drama for nothing but maybe i could help u both.

1)In order to craft a 99 of ur choice u need A LOT of luck in order to get that TP and that way it will cost u barely 700kish less than a legendary armor but all the effort and time and not to say that the legendary is WAY better.

2)If you dont get the exactly tp of ur choice you will have been wasting lots of rrt and real life time farming for something that you didnt want to get.. so you would find your self stuck in the fact that you will have to get the TP out of a Masters ,lets say hell... u have a good friend.. k if im not mistaken you need 4 dyes tier 30 ( 2 dyes and 2 cloths) and 3 dust epic 30 price on that? about 1.2m if you get the best best best of the deals. + another 1m something. ( as expensive as legendary.)

Conclusion? dont waste your time epic hunting cause you never get what you want and with all that rrt lost u can sell the trophies and buy something better than they thing that u wanted and WAY faster.

Imo, Tbh.

99 consumable costs roughly 600k to craft assuming 250k per dye and 25ish k per dust and thats not including the fact that someone made it and dismantled one already

legs require 1 cloth, 1 thread and say 75k in resins
legs can be made for about 1 mil give or take base price

arms require a bone, a cloth, and say 60k in resins
arms can be made for about 1.3 mil give or take base price

bp and helm... well ... ya
bp requires 2 t30 scales (est 250k ea) and 2 T30 ingots (est 800k ea)
so bp can be made for about 3.5 mil base price

helm can be made for about 2mil base price

so there is a significant difference between the 99's and legendary, price wise. the rest of it is basically paying someone to craft it etc which they deserve since they have taken the time and cost out to dismantle and collect etc.

I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that they are 'close' in cost, but they aren't, the difference imo is that instead of paying someone else to craft and destroy one etc, you are just removing your gold from circulation, never to be seen again. what we'll probably see is more OP pk farmers though to raise this gold required to purchase all this nifty gear. I would be interested in seeing information on the gear that is available in the town stores if anyone has the information.

[Smashbros]

tsx there is a clip on you tube that shows all the legendary gear in both shops.

on tenadia's channel i believe

[RogueTigeR]

I propose... so taht 'EPICS' most notably 99's AND t30 Resources do not go down the ****ter, something new and special be dooned (not sure about spelling..just use phonetics) upon the 99 epics. perhaps the epicurious skill could add some AC or something... i dunno... just an idea so that 99 epics are not merely 88 arrow TP (right click, dismantle, AWWW only 1 dust!!! ... )

more suggestions are welcome, or suggestions on how else to undo making 99 epics totally worthless now AND t30 resources!!!!

[Sanluciferr]

Originally Posted by tsx

99 consumable costs roughly 600k to craft assuming 250k per dye and 25ish k per dust and thats not including the fact that someone made it and dismantled one already

600k! lol, first off u need 4 dyes bro, to make a consumable, 2 dyes and 2 cloths ( cloths require dyes) find me a dye tier 30 for 250k which is a damn nice deal and that would add only 1m and +75k of dust. thats only 1,100m on getting a consumable. so ur point is out of the clouds.

[cleanprophet]

Originally Posted by Sanlucifer

600k! lol, first off u need 4 dyes bro, to make a consumable, 2 dyes and 2 cloths ( cloths require dyes) find me a dye tier 30 for 250k which is a damn nice deal and that would add only 1m and +75k of dust. thats only 1,100m on getting a consumable. so ur point is out of the clouds.

To be honest, I never farmed a single tp for my 99 epics. Almost all the dyes I used were foraged by me. I know I could have sold them for 300k or so, but ultimately, they cost me nothing. If you have a good clan and good clan mates, you can get a tp made if you have the mats. I got the mats through foraging (the cloths were made for me with my dyes). The only cost was 60k for the dusts and, to be honest, I had most of the dusts from previous items I'd dismantled.

Once the tp was made, the mats to make the item were minimal (if I remember rightly it was resins, a t30 bone and for the leggings/sleeves an additional dye/cloth). Cost me between 400k and 500k - making total outlay under 600k per item.

I'm not sure I would agree that the legendary suits are WAY better. The caster suit that Glitchless is sporting is pretty tasty, I admit. But at a cool 24m for the entire suit, I'm not so sure.

The level of the suiting (95) is a concern for me, especially as I would often be fighting against mobs higher than that level.

I have to say though, the fact that they are store bought is a massive, massive let down. How are they legendary when all or you need to equip them is money? We're told that some legendary suits will drop, but the rate they will drop is such that some may never drop (akin to winning the lottery, we're told). A legend should be someone of great achievements, not someone with deep pockets.