Ranged Damage

[Huggles]

Tickles has archery 100. All other archery skills are 0, so crits are dealing 1.5x damage.

Bow of trials, arrow of trials, rune of pain, no other bonuses

expected min/max
noncrit: 65.4/67.035
crit: 98.1/100.5525

actual min/max
noncrit: 65/97 (max higher than expected by 45%)
crit: 99/145 (max higher than expected by 45%)

What appears to be happening is the addition of min damage to both min and max damage, causing bows to be dealing extra damage.

If we plug in +20 in addition to +1 as the max damage on arrow of trials (+21), we get
expected min/max
noncrit: 65.4/99.745
crit: 98.1/149.6025

This is pretty close to what we actually got.

Long story short: arrows are double dipping their max damage by adding min and max.

[SilverLink]

If that is actually the case...

Solution: Add current minimum damage to all arrows max damage

[Huggles]

I'm still testing with other bows/arrows to confirm. All I know is that people were reporting hitting higher with bows than should be possible.

[Glitchless]

Show your full math for expected min/max values.

[Glitchless]

The damage curve for all types of attacks extends beyond the listed max damage when your relative pro damage stats exceed the con. ie, Ranged Damage Curve: Attacker's (Cnc+Int)/2 vs Defender's AC

[Huggles]

I accounted for that @ 1.5x. We've been able to accurately get that number to match for other weapon types such as crush, and that's the number everyone has known for years.

Maths:

Bow of Trials: 40-40
Arrow of Trials: 20-1
Combined: 60-41
50% Bonus: 60-61.5
Pain R6: 65.4-67.035
Crit: 98.1-100.5525


If working as I'm guessing:

Bow of Trials: 40-40
Arrow of Trials: 20-1
Combined: 60-61
50% Bonus: 60-91.5
Pain R6: 65.4-99.735
Crit: 98.1-149.6025

The latter numbers match up so perfectly that it's hard to look past it. All I know for sure is that even with that 50% bonus from damage stats factored in, ranged max damage is exceeding expected max damage somehow.

[Glitchless]

If max is less than min, max is raised to match min. This happens prior to the potential 50% bonus from stat differentials. This works the same for all attack types.

[Huggles]

Good to know. I'll continue doing other testing to figure out why some archers are hitting for more than their supposed max damage, even when not using Trials.

Thanks.

[Tsutsu]

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[Huggles]

Archer 2ndary makes it 7555. Good catch by Sher.