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[thatperson]

Originally Posted by Sexykills

i am thinking this has to be the biggest waste of my time if i were to read all that, so instead i chose not to vote.

reason being i dont want all the classes to be equal and really dont understand why anyone else would. where would the verity be in that? oh look i tied in that duel or oh that duel was close, so there would really be no motavation to better your player.

first of all if you get beat in a duel dont whine aww i am so underpowered Glitchless please make me strong *cries* or at least make that guy weaker...lol

secondly if you want a stronger character learn the game and build one, reroll or even start a new character, point here is if you think DD casters are OP than choose to be one, but oh noes many dont choose casters as they are too hard to build or so much to lvl and its just easyer to whine about them or your class.

i have a great idea why dosnt everyone just send $500 to Glitchless and he can provide you with a fully built lvl 80 belly button class player equal to all the others that send $500 that would be great fun and that way you could always figure you had a 50/50 chance in a duel and all would be fair.........yaaay what fun yippy

no offense Glitchless but this has got to top my list of the dumbest idea thread i have ever read and no matter what gets nurfed or buffed the problem will be there and will always be unfair to some as well (imagine throwing $1000 into building your character only to get nurfed cause someone else was whining)

BOOO HOOO suck it up and play or dont play but by alll means stop the sniviling and whining you babies.........

god i wasted time on this thread...i cant belive that, well no fear it wont happen again as i am done with the "whiner thread" so flame away or whatever i wont be back to this thread anyhow...

*facepalm* the idea of OP is that they are near impossible to beat or take a very specific fighting style to beat...DD casters arent OP imo they are just powerful...we dont want flat equality we want all attack styles to be able to build to beat another attack style...at least thats what i want ...i want pierce to stand half a chance in PvP and whips to not just dominate ...im not saying make it equal i want build to still play a role but i dont want someone to just win a fight due to weapon choice no matter their build....as is its pretty much balanced but whips take more work to build to beat than say a slasher vs slasher...equal work for each anti build ...an antislash build should take same ammount of work as an antiwhips build imo

Originally Posted by thatperson

*facepalm* the idea of OP is that they are near impossible to beat or take a very specific fighting style to beat...DD casters arent OP imo they are just powerful...we dont want flat equality we want all attack styles to be able to build to beat another attack style...at least thats what i want ...i want pierce to stand half a chance in PvP and whips to not just dominate ...im not saying make it equal i want build to still play a role but i dont want someone to just win a fight due to weapon choice no matter their build....as is its pretty much balanced but whips take more work to build to beat than say a slasher vs slasher...equal work for each anti build ...an antislash build should take same ammount of work as an antiwhips build imo

i thought you were done -_- havent you said this in every post so far? do you even have any capped toons? have you even played around with all the skills to full potential? perfect example of what im talking about is relic he can swap to whatever he wants to beat whom ever he wants. just by change a few things on him. not stats. apprently you get to do that when you have leveled everything to 80. who thought?!? this game is sorta like rock paper scissors since we all are able to LOOK at each others build and copy. id suggest that be changed also. at this point relic is somthing better then rock paper or scissors. hes that much farther ahead on skills then most others.

[thatperson]

i was explaining to sexykills the whole point of the thread....im not gonna argue with you this will be my last post in this thread btw u dont have to have capped character to understand the mechanics of the game

Originally Posted by thatperson

i was explaining to sexykills the whole point of the thread....im not gonna argue with you this will be my last post in this thread btw u dont have to have capped character to understand the mechanics of the game

do low levels use these skills we are talking about no. some of them dont come out till level 40 i think it is. in any case im sure most dont bother leveling this stuff at lower levels because they have more important things to level at the time.i think its safe to say you dont exactly know what your talking about. yes 74 whips are good pvp but are the other whips? such as the 83's or so. not as good no. are whips good for farming trophys no.(at least not on hybrids) true bm might be different. can whips be beat with a few lousy auras and a pvp build. yes! mechanics seem simple to me. you use what is there to beat whatever you're fighting. on all my toons i will be running a shield and 2 different wepon types. except one i refuse to let the 81 slashers continue to beat my crusher up. btw wheres the 1 handed epic crusher? -_- oh and yes i agree pierce is the worst wepon in game.

[Misguided]

bottom line to this entire thread is this.......everyone wants everything easy

do what Relic did, build a f@ckin killin machine

as far as who is better in PvP....with the system we have, who really cares, whats the benefit of beating the next guy??

and like they say....if you cant beat em, join em...........if you want your end character to be built to beat Blue the BM...build for it........if you want to beat Kyron the caster.....build for it........if you want to beat Relic the MACHINE....forget it

all in all, if everything was equal, noone would play, why would you?

Originally Posted by Pasterqb

And yes Blue i been using all my trophies for an Anti Caster build. But what you are saying is i need to build for anti caster and then build for anti Whip now too? Why? Why do i need to waste my trophies just to beat some idiot in a duel? Currently there are no rewards for duels so why waste my trophies on PvP when i can use them on PvE and collect trophies faster?

Haven't you been constantly nagging here about not being able to beat whippers, which is considered pvp?? If pvp isn't important to you, why are you crying? Magic damage is not melee damage, which is not ranged damage. This is why you need to build a defense, or offense, against a specific build. It's like saying you'll do well in a duel with 300 some odd cnt against someone who doesn't have a single damage gem in their pouch. It kind of defeats the purpose. I don't really care if you've been raising your magic defenses. It'll be your loss, if you don't go up against a caster. This is why having a good all-around defense is good, and not just whine when you share your trophies with another toon and expect to win against those that do use their trophies.

As for pve, what you suddenly seem to have changed the topic to, I'm sure you can kill mobs quicker than most capped whippers. Whippers have to worry about both Whips and both Pets connecting in order to deal full damage. Unlike you, only having to worry about two Slashers connecting and doing full damage - attack Pets for you just add a small amount of appreciated dps. You can keep raising Melee and your main damage sources, Slashers, will continue to benefit. You can only enchant Pets with a +30(highest stone able to be crafted as of now) stone **which does not benefit from Stat Enhancement**, on top of more misses - Boas have Epic accuracy, but I can't really notice a difference from their base Great acc.

This is my final post in this thread. I'm done trying to babysit, tbh irl bbq cnn. I think too much information on how to beat Whips has already been spilled by the people that actually know how to play.
Also, this is actually Rayzor's signature, but I'll post it here and hope to do it some justice: "Its Better To Keep Your Mouth Shut And Let Everybody Think You Are An Idiot. Than it is to open it and remove all doubt!!"

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Originally Posted by Misguided

bottom line to this entire thread is this.......everyone wants everything easy

do what Relic did, build a f@ckin killin machine

as far as who is better in PvP....with the system we have, who really cares, whats the benefit of beating the next guy??

and like they say....if you cant beat em, join em...........if you want your end character to be built to beat Blue the BM...build for it........if you want to beat Kyron the caster.....build for it........if you want to beat Relic the MACHINE....forget it

all in all, if everything was equal, noone would play, why would you?

i care if i can beat then next guy. only reason im here is for pvp. when you're involved in a main clan war why would you want to keep getting pwnt over and over. thats the main reason ive figured out you need to use different things to beat different people. relic is machine nerf him nao! xD or make it so he cant log for a few months so we can catch up :P

haha well said blue <3

[Misguided]

[QUOTE=Power;69286]i care if i can beat then next guy. only reason im here is for pvp. when you're involved in a main clan war why would you want to keep getting pwnt over and over.


hence the "with the current PvP system". face it who is at war with their main clan, against another main clan???

improve the system, make it worth beatin the next guy

[QUOTE=Misguided;69292]

Originally Posted by Power

i care if i can beat then next guy. only reason im here is for pvp. when you're involved in a main clan war why would you want to keep getting pwnt over and over.


hence the "with the current PvP system". face it who is at war with their main clan, against another main clan???

improve the system, make it worth beatin the next guy

power and loony. they been at war since the clan wars come out. real wars are hard to come by in nod. like everyone with the alt clan wars. its pretty easy to up and leave the clan. who cares if you do that there isn othing at stake. will anyon else use a main clan to war. i doubt it. thus the reason power will not sell out to loony. the war is "real".

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boo power

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[Nurvus]

This poll is rather... pointless.
Everyone will be voting against whatever class gives them the most trouble.

Personally, for overall PvE, whatever classes can pull off the highest burst are the most OP, or if they aren't OP, the ones that kill slower are UP.

For PvP, it's more complicated, because some classes may seem OP against some other specific class, or specific build, or in Arenas there may be this class that gives YOUR team trouble, but may not be too strong otherwise.

When a team composition in Arenas becomes popular, alot of players are tempted to do the same.
Then some team takes notice of this, and makes a team specifically to beat the popular team, and suddenly there's a new "OP combo" in the house.
It keeps going.

If you don't take your tinted glasses, you won't be able to judge things properly.