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[Sleepingfox]

i voted duel wielders because i have never dueled a whip user. but i seam to lose very easily to duel wilders

Originally Posted by flipynifty

perhaps a new skill to avoid pet attacks for non-whip users

i like it but it still makes battles last long cause they heal too much.

Plus i dont want a PvP only ability cause it is useless 99.9% of the time.

You could just raise Parry and Kite to counter pets at an increased rate but that still makes duels long

[launcelot]

I voted for whip+pet users because of fire&ice. Didnt vote for casters since with the right skills against a caster the caster is nothing

[thatperson]

Originally Posted by Sleepingfox

i voted duel wielders because i have never dueled a whip user. but i seam to lose very easily to duel wilders

ok paster i stand corrected....i willl gladly give up my right to vote in these polls to keep retards like this from it....ive never dueled a whip user either sleeping but i can do the basic math to look at their skills and see how OP they are

Originally Posted by Sleepingfox

i voted duel wielders because i have never dueled a whip user. but i seam to lose very easily to duel wilders

It could be because you have a lvl 14 quiver at lvl 36 or the fact that you have attack pets which isnt a good choice PvP unless you use whips. I reccomend Swans. And as an Archer i see you have a high lvl in Recovery proving you dont know how to play the game (or atleast your class). So dont think you can compete with a bad build and bad equipment set.

[thatperson]

holy crap....i never bothered to inspect sleepingfox...i thought u were just making crap up but that is probably the most pathetic stats/equipment ive ever seen on a lvl 36

[flipynifty]

should sleeping fox be on the poll?

[thatperson]

hell no

i voted whips/pets because everything being said about them is true. they were mediocre (but not the best) before fire and ice patch, after that patch they became unstoppable

every pvper in nodiatis is switching to the 74 whips because it has been proven to be the best pvp weapon available hands down..

ppl try whips/slashers/crushers/2handers/etc and always always ALWAYS do better with whips for pvp
growls bring casters to their knees, fire'n'ice gives them a huge edge over every melee type, archers arent best for 1v1 and dont stand a chance

whips shouldnt be the best weapon type over swords/axes/etc in any game imo - jus doesnt seem right at all

[figgy]

Funny last poll like this had dual weapons as being op and nothing really changed since then as far as the game goes. What changed are people's view of how things work.

There is no large advantage from one class to another, what makes a toon op is the proper use of skill points.

BTW to say that the 74 whips are the best pvp weapon, just proves that you do not understand how it all works. The whips by themselves are rather poor weapons.

[zenga]

Originally Posted by flipynifty

perhaps a new skill to avoid pet attacks for non-whip users, that could potentially half their DPS.

Guess this can be accomplished by a new line of gems. Kinda like the stun/mes line of gems back in the day to fight the 59 crushers. There seems to be already skills enough to me. Another skill means that the stronger get even more stronger, thus getting even more overpowered as they are like the only ones who spend enough time to actually level all those stats (enough time or they already have most skills uo). Whereas a gem is accessible to most of us.

I am speaking of course of PVP...

Originally Posted by flipynifty

as for PVE i'm pretty sure everything seems to be balanced class wise, they all have their specialities, even if their own speciality is a little ahead or way behind :P

if it's pve than you should make a difference between solo play and group play, there is no such thing as overpowered in pve imo ...

well figgy seeing as how the 74s reflect 20% of the enemies dps back at them makes them OP on there own

and if you include pets then BAM that's like healing 40% of the dmg you take during the pets turn and the pets also deal dmg

not to bring up crush but they have an advantage of only lvling STR which makes them hit for max dmg far more often than slashers(I don't think anyone is 100% sure on how piercerS work), but I guess we have to wait and see how overpowered the next epic crusher is (I plan on switching to crush to maximize my warrior ability)

[figgy]

Well Pasterqb, you are wrong. The 74 whips are poor weapons by themselves. This has been tested a number of times. Take away the pets, duel against 81 slashers or 80 crushers and the whip user will come in second best. The statement that the 74 whips are op is just plain silly and has been proven to be false.

duh whips by themselves will come in second. I can't be wrong on something I never said. why the FFFFFFF would you unequip pets? that us wasting 60% of your bonuses

if a whip is the best weapon then this game should be BDSM.com instead of Nodiatis.com

unequipping pets for a BM is telling a slasher or crusher to fight without weapons completely

[figgy]

pasterqb, please pay attention to what you are saying, these are your words:

well figgy seeing as how the 74s reflect 20% of the enemies dps back at them makes them OP on there own

You made a statement that the 74 whips are op on there (their) own. I am saying that on their own, the 74 whips are not good weapons. So yes you did say it and you are wrong just like all those other people running around thinking that the 74 whips will change your toon into some umber charactor. This is not true,.

If you want to talk about bm skills then that is an other matter and it has nothing to do with the 74 whips, those skills work just as well with a level one whip as a level 92 whip. What make it all work is the 5 billion experience points that goes into the bm skills, not the stupid 74 whips.

Originally Posted by figgy

There is no large advantage from one class to another, what makes a toon op is the proper use of skill points.

BTW to say that the 74 whips are the best pvp weapon, just proves that you do not understand how it all works. The whips by themselves are rather poor weapons.

WOW. wrong wrong AND wrong.. for a person who has gotten so much exp in so short a time and dominates pvp with 74 whips, u sure lack common sense

soo.. whips w/o pets arent good?? :O who knew?

soo.. weapons w/o the skills that boost them arent good?? :O who knew?

soo.. everyone switching to whips has nothing to do with them having a huge advantage?? :O who knew?

soo.. i dont understand how it all works b/c i overlooked an OBVIOUS statement that has no bearing whatsoever on the subject at hand and every1 already knows?? :O who knew?

This has nothing to do with my conflict with Paster being a jerk or with me iggying him but Figgy was right in their dispute. Figgy took things literally and was right. Paster expected people (completely justified) to understand that he meant whips AND pets but failing to mention that too lead to this stupid dispute.

In all sense, everybody here is a rrrtard. We are on the internet, right? :O

Also, even if this makes me Jeff spank me once again and ban me from forums, I must say :

CASTERS ARE TRULY AND DEFINITELY UNDER POWERED !

I suggest adding a skill that diminishes the opponent's CNT and another one that gives a chance for gems to ignore protect auras. Also more epic staffs and gem slots and epic gems in store :P

This should give birth to some nice flames

Yes Figgy i said that but i meant that the ability of the whips are OP.

I didnt think someone would be stupid enuff to say screw pets and not use them. Like i said it is like a slasher or crusher only using half their resources to deal dmg. And i crunched some numbers and a Pet can heal/dmg for over 700 in 1 turn!?!?!?! the number 700 is dmg and heal combined. So why would any whip user not use pets?

Because they poo on the couch?